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April 27, 2006

The Real Burning Question of Our Time

OK ladies and gentlemen... time for a real thought-provoker.

What do you find sexy?

FAKE breasts are a turnoff, men say, and wrinkles beat Botox. Lumberjacks are hot, women believe, but men who cry at the movies are not. Cooking, meanwhile, is sexier than fixing a transmission. These are among the findings of a new poll by Zogby International, which asked 1,000 men and an equal number of women what they find sexy. The poll was commissioned by NBC's "Today" show, which will air the results tomorrow and Friday.

And only 30 percent of men prefer makeup on their mates; 50 percent would rather they ditch the lipstick and go unadorned.

The message for women: "From wearing makeup to Botox, it ain't what you think it is," said John Zogby, president of the polling firm.

Younger men are much more likely to find cosmetics a turn-off, and women who ask them out a turn-on - among a number of signs that definitions of what's sexy are steadily changing, said Zogby.

"What we see is a slow and steady redefinition" of what's sexy, he says. "The old stereotypes seem to be breaking down, and the definition of what guys look for is changing."

My guess is that the answers will be intriguing - and individual. Mine were.

Posted by Cassandra at April 27, 2006 12:14 PM

Comments

One of the lady MilBloggers came up to me at the conference this weekend, and said, "I thought you'd look more like a lumberjack." (I must look more like a cowboy, since several of the ladies addressed me as, "Hi, Cowboy.") Now I know why they were thinking of it.

Posted by: Grim at April 27, 2006 03:54 PM

Who was it that said "women dress for other women?"

Posted by: spd_rdr at April 27, 2006 04:02 PM

Were you wearing The Hat?

Yeah, I thought so. I think Grimbeorn sounds vaguely lumberjack-ish. Or it could just be that you're one hot tomato :)

Posted by: Cassandra at April 27, 2006 04:03 PM

I never go anywhere without a Stetson. But yes, I was wearing the hat, the one my grandfather wore before me.

Posted by: Grim at April 27, 2006 04:05 PM

Who was it that said "women dress for other women?"

I guess a lot do. I never seem to really know - or care - what's in style. I wear things I know my husband will like to see me in, or when I get cold, I put some real clothes on :)

Posted by: Cassandra at April 27, 2006 04:57 PM

Burly ain't making it, I'll tell ya.

Grim was a shrimp dressed like a cowboy.

I'm huge and furry.

T'weren't no chicks coming up to me...

Posted by: John of Argghhh! at April 27, 2006 04:59 PM

Choose between a 10 and a 2? Are they joking? Size ten for SURE.


OT, but about Zogby/polling:

I'm signed up for Zogby, and took a poll this morning (never took the one mentioned in this post). While many of the questions' assumed inferences bother me, I plug along with them.

They seem to have a real big obsession with figuring out if you are a NASCAR fan, since they ask *every* survey, and have for almost a year. Same with the Walmart question. Church attendance, religion, and "do you consider yourself in the investor class" also have a constant presence. Every time I respond to those two in particular, I wonder how they're going to set up the results to somehow make us "flyover" citizens to look like morons. I figured this out quickly, and now answer for gross poll effect (as opposed to pretending each question is happening in a vacuum.)

PS:
The poll today was about views on Egypt. After rating how "happy" you were to have the acquitance with Egypt, it launched into a series of "Would knowing XXX" improve your opinion type queries. 10 Million Christian citizens, among first to accept Israel, etc. I can't wait until they manipulate the Walmart shopper angle into that one.

Posted by: Jmarsh at April 27, 2006 05:00 PM

Almost forgot...Not intending to reveal preferences, just how limited a "two option radio button response" can be.

Some "inflated" characteristics aren't bad, as long as you're not sticking DD's on a size 2. Rule of thumb, you can add some inputs to the "plunge" equation, just not so they look grossly unnatural (clothes on *or* off).

Posted by: Jmarsh at April 27, 2006 05:05 PM

I find a woman dining out in a fur coat and nothing else incredibly sexy. I also find small elephants in my slippers each morning.

Posted by: spd_rdr at April 27, 2006 05:12 PM

Grim the chick magnet? Heh... Furry works for me, John :)

Jmarsh:

I suspect that's a more honest answer than the poll results.

Are they pink, mr rdr? The elephants, I mean.

That must be a guy thing - that general idea. Not that I would know anything about this, mind you.

Posted by: Cassandra at April 27, 2006 05:23 PM

"Grim was a shrimp dressed like a cowboy."

Now that's decidedly less polite than the greeting you gave me on the occasion. Meanest man I ever met was Drill Instructor Sgt. Hernandez, who was four inches shorter than me. I was no more inclined to mess with him than you were, back when you were within arm's reach of me. :)

Posted by: Grim at April 27, 2006 06:18 PM

Unless they are large and furry pink elephant slippers...

Posted by: Cricket at April 27, 2006 06:51 PM

I'll tell you what I find sexy. A woman who isn't afraid to weed a flower bed, plant a garden or mow the lawn while I drink a beer.

Major turn on.

Posted by: Pile On at April 27, 2006 07:11 PM

Pile... :)

I think competence is dead sexy. I love when guys get that just slightly cocky air because they've just done some guy thing, like fixing something, or whatever it is they like doing. I don't want them to get obnoxious about it or anything, but I love that little spring they get in their step when they're feeling good about themselves.

And I'm a real sucker for when you can tell they want you to notice what they just did, but they don't say anything. It must be that combination of damn-I'm-good arrogance and a little bit of vulnerability - gets me every time.

Posted by: Cassandra at April 27, 2006 07:22 PM

For some reason a lot of the sales guys in our office aren't terribly tall, but they're all extremely attractive men.

One in particular just destroys me. Whenever I drive into the office, he pops out of his office and shoots off this totally corny line (I can't even remember it - it's the delivery that kills).

Something about "I thought I heard music - an angel just walked though the door" or some utter rubbish like that. It is so over the top and he's so full of it that it never fails to make me laugh.

I think a sense of fun is very sexy too.

Posted by: Cassandra at April 27, 2006 07:30 PM

It is a good thing we don't live anywhere near each other Cass. Because everything I do, I do well. Even if it is just screwing off. I can do that like nobody's business.

Posted by: Pile On at April 27, 2006 07:41 PM

Now that's the Pile I remember :)

Posted by: Cassandra at April 27, 2006 08:08 PM

Grim the chick magnet? Heh.

Posted by: Eric Blair at April 27, 2006 08:14 PM

I think competence is dead sexy. I love when guys get that just slightly cocky air because they've just done some guy thing, like fixing something, or whatever it is they like doing. I don't want them to get obnoxious about it or anything, but I love that little spring they get in their step when they're feeling good about themselves.

Oh, yeah! *swoon*

Posted by: FbL at April 27, 2006 08:19 PM

I'm sorry,

a) I wouldn't trust the results of a Today poll of chimpanzees about how much they liked bananas.

b) I can't bring myself to watch Today under any circumstances. I think I'd rather watch Springer (and I've never watched Springer for more than 5 minutes), and would certainly expect a better time from listening to Howard Stern.

c) Asking a question about looks-vs-personality, for example, is utterly, ridiculously meaningless without context. I would take an average woman with a good personality over a magnificent shrew any day... and if I got to choose to improve a girlfriend's looks or personality magically by 5% (but not both), I might go for the looks OR the personality, depending on where the greatest lack was to me.

;-)

Posted by: OhBloodyHell at April 27, 2006 09:22 PM

Quotes: I think a sense of fun is very sexy too.
I think competence is dead sexy.

I always enjoy having fun while being sexy. That is those are the things that make me a very competant Doctor... I have to go now...my surgery team is waiting for me to fix another problem patient..will my work ever be done? Where is my copy of Lumberjack monthly?


PS. I am very tall ;)

Posted by: Dr. Harden Stuhl at April 27, 2006 09:29 PM

yeah...what Cass said.

heh.

Posted by: Cricket at April 27, 2006 09:44 PM

And what is even sexier is when the Dr. and Cass 'consult' together on a patient...especially the ones with the rectal cranial inversions. That was what...two, three years ago and I still get hysterics thinking about it.

Posted by: Cricket at April 27, 2006 09:46 PM

Bad: Fake boobs, too much makeup, weird hairstyles, unusual nail art, dresses like MTV hosebag.

Sexy: Feminine. Long legs. Tall (I'm 6'4"). Red fingernails. Understands football. Doesn't drink too much. Knows how to look at me just so, and do that thing with her eyelashes that makes me melt. Can still blush at certain situations. The way she looks with her hair kinda messed up, just out of bed on Saturday morning.

Stuff like that is sexy.

Posted by: Barry at April 28, 2006 12:05 AM

I have to agree with Cass and Cricket.
Competence and self confidence are definite turn ons.
But also, a good sense of humor. Wit is hot.

And on a purely superficial level, a British accent.
Sean Connery could read the phone book and I'd find it sexy.

Posted by: Carrie at April 28, 2006 07:23 AM

So I was at an airport a few weeks ago, waiting for a flight, and sitting next to me was a rather attractive woman, who I inferred after a few moments conversation, was a "professional" woman, if you get my meaning.

So I asked her,"What kind of men do YOU find attractive, being experienced beyond the measure of most women, in the ways of the world?"

And she says,"Well, I think cowboys are very sexy, because they are so slim and tall and muscular, with small firm buttocks. And Jewish men, because they are so focused and intense."
And then she says to me,"So what's you're name?"

And I reply, "Hopalong Rubinstein."

Posted by: Don Brouhaha, Jewish Cowboy at April 28, 2006 10:02 AM

Cass hit on what I think is "Sexy" as applies to a woman of the female persuasion so-to-speak..........Confidence (or competence,either is good).Is comfortable with herself,can bait a hook and entertain at the Christmas Party with equal panache.Can heel-toe shift and make you a Lima Bean sandwich after 3 a.m. love practice.


Anyone knows this woman, please e-mail me .


p.s. It would also help if she owned a liquor store and a home on the 16th fairway.

Posted by: WildBlueYonder at April 28, 2006 01:07 PM

Maybe it's just me, but I find any woman who doesn't want a minimum of half my paycheck for the rest of her life to be pretty darn sexy.

Which brings me to the immortal question: How come there's only her property and our property?

Posted by: RIslander at April 28, 2006 01:16 PM

Okay, that lumberjack was just creepy (but I'm from Oregon where we have the real deal). Can't speak to Grim's appearance - looked for him at the conference but missed him, darn it. John was cute . . . furry but cute. ;-)

Interesting poll. The Walmart factor has me scratching my head though.

Deb

Posted by: Deb at April 28, 2006 01:59 PM

Maybe I'm being too general, but chicks, sexy. Dudes, not sexy.

Posted by: KJ at April 28, 2006 04:45 PM

Listen to Rimsky Korskov. Scheherazade is one blue hot honey. I'd cross the decades for her.

Posted by: Sonar at April 28, 2006 05:13 PM

Oh, KJ. You're so straight and old fashioned! :)

Posted by: Don Brouhaha at April 28, 2006 06:30 PM

I believe that my success with the ladies is entirely due to my ginormous codpiece.

Posted by: a former european at April 28, 2006 07:17 PM

And Helen Thomas. Yowza!

Posted by: Sonar at April 29, 2006 01:09 AM

Sonar - I put a picture up on imageshack just for you.....[you being such a Helen Thomas fan..] It is work safe...but just barely.

Click on my name.

Cheers...Harden

Posted by: Dr. Harden Stuhl at April 29, 2006 01:34 AM

More of my complaining about Zogby... From the latest poll:

Do you believe there is a real oil crisis, or is this rise in the cost of oil a crisis manufactured by the oil industry at large to boost profits?

1)The oil crisis is real
2)The oil crisis is manufactured to boost profits
3)Not sure

Posted by: Jmarsh at April 29, 2006 11:17 AM

I like confidence and brains, but the Engineer is a fix it kind of guy. Not in the scary sense of Tim Allen, but he would be perfectly at home with "This Old House." And after he fixes something, he has that cute attitude...so darn cute I...uh...well, :)

Posted by: Cricket at April 29, 2006 02:11 PM

And what is even sexier is when the Dr. and Cass 'consult' together on a patient... especially the ones with the rectal cranial inversions. That was what...two, three years ago and I still get hysterics thinking about it.

Me too Cricket. Those were fun times, weren't they?

I think that's what makes the gentlemen of this blog so irresistible: that combination of manliness, intelligence, killer snark, and just plain orneriness.

And then of course there are the ginormous codpieces...

Posted by: Cassandra at May 1, 2006 09:40 PM

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