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June 19, 2006

Murtha vs. Murtha: We've Met The Enemy And They Iz Us Edition

8953318-8953321-slarge.jpg John Murtha, the lithe and incredibly buff victim of repeated vicious and completely unprovoked attacks from Karl Rove's fat backside, talks about the importance of being willing to change direction:

...it shows you how important it is to change direction in Iraq. Reagan changed direction in Beirut. Clinton changed direction in Somalia. We need to change direction. And they can't seem to get it.
He should know. Unlike the present administration, Murtha has displayed a commendable willingness to change his mind. Only a year and a half ago, the unrepentant hawk maintained America would lose credibility if we withdrew according to a "political timetable":
“Nevertheless, a war initiated on faulty intelligence must not be followed by a premature withdrawal of our troops based on a political timetable. An untimely exit could rapidly devolve into a civil war, which would leave America's foreign policy in disarray as countries question not only America's judgment but also its perseverance.
-John Murtha, late 2004
Less than a year later, Murtha changed his mind. Now, there could be no credibility without a timetable:
"...the American people want a timetable... even the Iraqi leadership wants a timetable...after all how else are they ever going to have any credibility in the region?"
- Murtha, 2005

By November, the demand for a timetable had morphed into a proposal for immediate redeployment of US forces in Iraq and the establishment of a "quick reaction", "over-the-horizon force" in the region:

Therefore be it Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That:

Section 1. The deployment of United States forces in Iraq, by direction of Congress, is hereby terminated and the forces involved are to be redeployed at the earliest practicable date.

Section 2. A quick-reaction U.S. force and an over-the- horizon presence of U.S Marines shall be deployed in the region.

Section 3 The United States of America shall pursue security and stability in Iraq through diplomacy.
- John Murtha, November, 2005

Fearing non-military folks might not understand technical terms like "quick response" and "in the region", Rep. Murtha helpfully defined these terms for the public half a year later:

MR. ROVE: Congressman Murtha said, “Let’s redeploy them immediately to another country in the Middle East. Let’s get out of Iraq and go to another country.” My question is, what country would take us? What country would say after the United States cut and run from Iraq, what country in the Middle East would say, “Yeah. Paint a big target on our back and then you’ll cut and run on us.” What country would say that? What country would accept our troops?

MURTHA: Kuwait’s one that will take us. Qatar, we already have bases in Qatar. So Bahrain. All those countries are willing to take the United States. Now, Saudi Arabia won’t because they wanted us out of there in the first place. So—and we don’t have to be right there. We can go to Okinawa. We, we don’t have—we can redeploy there almost instantly. So that’s not—that’s, that’s a fallacy. That, that’s just a statement to rial up people to support a failed policy wrapped in illusion.

MR. RUSSERT: But it’d be tough to have a timely response from Okinawa.

REP. MURTHA: Well, it—you know, they—when I say Okinawa, I, I’m saying troops in Okinawa. When I say a timely response, you know, our fighters can fly from Okinawa very quickly. And—and—when they don’t know we’re coming. There’s no question about it. And, and where those airplanes won’t—came from I can’t tell you, but, but I’ll tell you one thing, it doesn’t take very long for them to get in with cruise missiles or with, with fighter aircraft or, or attack aircraft, it doesn’t take any time at all. So we, we have done—this one particular operation, to say that that couldn’t have done, done—it was done from the outside, for heaven’s sakes.

Though of course Americans who haven't been in combat really have no right to comment on Rep. Murtha's proposal, some of you civilian types may be wondering exactly what military terms like "get there quickly", "rapid deployment, and "over-the-horizon force" mean? Fortunately, Rep. Murtha is well-versed in combat logistics. There's no question about it:

...this ignores the six week 24/7 Taskforce 145 "Unblinking Eye" intelligence and surveillance operation that led to having a Delta SR team with eyes on target and designating it with a laser. Apparently Murtha thinks that somebody called 1-800-ZARQAWI with 10 digit grid coordinates and voila! an F-16 launches from Okinawa and 10-12 hours later... poof, no more Zarqawi.

The straight yellow line extending across the middle of China and Iran is the distance from Okinawa to Baghdad as the crow flies which is approximately 4200 nautical miles. Obviously, the Chinese and the Iranians wouldn't be cool with that, but let's just roll with it. The max combat range for the F-16 with external fuel tanks and 2000 lbs of ordnance is 740 nautical miles so that's like a minimum of SIX midair refuelings in EACH direction.

The main thing is that when we make mistakes, our national interest and the respect of the international community depend on our willingness to change direction, as Clinton did, leading to our notable success in Mogadishu, Somalia:

...your most disgraceful case was in Somalia; where- after vigorous propaganda about the power of the USA and its post cold war leadership of the new world order- you moved tens of thousands of international force, including twenty eight thousands American solders into Somalia. However, when tens of your solders were killed in minor battles and one American Pilot was dragged in the streets of Mogadishu you left the area carrying disappointment, humiliation, defeat and your dead with you. Clinton appeared in front of the whole world threatening and promising revenge, but these threats were merely a preparation for withdrawal.

You have been disgraced by Allah and you withdrew; the extent of your impotence and weaknesses became very clear. It was a pleasure for the "heart" of every Muslim and a remedy to the "chests" of believing nations to see you defeated in the three Islamic cities of Beirut, Aden and Mogadishu.
- Usama bin Laden

"Our people realize[d] more than before that the American soldier is a paper tiger that run[s] in defeat after a few blows," the terror chief recalled. "America forgot all about the hoopla and media propaganda and left dragging their corpses and their shameful defeat."

- Usama bin Laden, 1998

After all, the last thing we want to do is give a microphone to our enemies

We’ve become the enemy. We’ve given a microphone to people like Zarqawi,” said Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa
. Finally Rep. Murtha says something we can all agree with.

Posted by Cassandra at June 19, 2006 07:37 AM


I keep searching Mr. Murtha's comments for signs of intelligent life. As an American I want to hear everyone's opinion. In Rep. Murtha it's too easy to see the strings move and hear the hard drive kicking into gear to read the most recent entry. We're a little thin of leadership lately. Straddling the voter's depth of memory is a proven tactic in times of change. The bad guys read, can count, can look at a calendar all too well. From Ho to Kim to Osama...you learn by reading America that the key to dealing with this country is knowing where one is in relation to the Presidential Election year next on the calendar.

Rep. Murtha, versed in logistics, also has his eye on the calendar too. Altruistic? ...no...savvy?...yes.

Posted by: Nolan School at June 19, 2006 09:51 AM

300 more unborn where murdered today - you and your children acquired another $1,500,000,000 worth of debt (to the ChiComs) - and you bashed liberals (I'm not one btw) and propogandized Murtha in a circle jerk with your other clueless friends.

Bravo asswipe.

Posted by: Niccolo MacPlato at June 19, 2006 03:26 PM

> Less than a year later, Murtha changed his mind. Now, there could be no credibility without a timetable:

I nominate Murtha for the leader in good standing of the Eggo Club of America.

From now on, his name should always be written using the infix honorific: John 'Eggo' Murtha.

He takes over the title from the moribund titleholder Mr. John Kerry, who now tends to be making his final Eggo contribution by waffling between the honorifics of "Loser" and "Mud".

Posted by: OhBloodyHell at June 19, 2006 11:03 PM

> Bravo asswipe.

Ahhhh. A technical refutation. Always interesting to see someone with a shart twit demonstrate their extensive rhetorical skills.

Posted by: OhBloodyHell at June 19, 2006 11:05 PM

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