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August 22, 2008

Top Ten Things I Don't Give A Rat's Ass About This Election Season

The Blog Princess woke in the middle of the night with a deep sense of fear and loathing.

The election is beginning to wear a bit thin.

The candidates have now officially been campaigning since the early Mesozoic Era. There are fossils older than some of the scandals still popping up like Whack-a-Mole between the National Enquirer, Drudge, the MSM, Bill Keller, and the BlatheroSphere. In my more rational moments I suspect there must be one or two decent human beings left somewhere in the universe. I keep hoping someone will do the right thing and refuse to drop another savory Hamsher Pellet into the open jaws of the Beast.

I keep being proven wrong.

I am tired of being whipsawed between the MSM, the blogosphere, and the latest scandal du jour. But most of all, what I'm sick to death of is Us. Because "we" - the seemingly insatiable hunger of both sides in this political slugfest - is what these people keep pandering to. You can't sell dirt without a ready and willing buyer, and day after day we show up looking for something dirty on the opposition.

Why we do this instead of focusing on the issues, instead of discussing what's important: the major events of the day, things that are changing the world as we know it, is a depressing topic in and of itself. I have my ideas, but there's not enough alcohol in the world to make me kiss that pig. So let's change the subject.

I'd like to discuss inconsequential trivia: the top ten things I adamantly refuse to give a rat's ass about. Ten things that, if I never hear mentioned again, I won't miss one bit. For instance:

10. I couldn't care less that John McCain left his first wife years ago. Get the hell over it. The man is divorced. D-I-V-O-R-C-E-D. His marriage ended. It ended badly. There is a word for matters like this, for things that pass between a husband and wife in the bou-doir: "private". Divorce is not a crime in the United States of America. It's not a question of moral turpitude. Sure, I'd rather he'd stayed married, but if I'd spent several years in a North Vietnamese prison camp apart from my wife, I imagine:

(a) we might have grown somewhat apart as a couple, and
(b) I might have a tad bit of emotional baggage to work through as a consequence.

To all appearances the man seems to have coped admirably with a horrific experience I can't even begin to imagine. Cut the guy some slack.

9. What, exactly, is the big deal about John McCain living off his wife's money? Does a former attack plane pilot lose Man Points for using girly money? Are there cooties on it? How is a man supposed to be married to a woman without ever allowing any of their funds - much less other body parts - to co-mingle? And while we're on the subject, is there anything more delicious than watching Green Glennwald twist himself into a nasty little rhetorical pretzel (now with 25% Extra Hypocrisy!) to justify deliberately engaging in what he, himself calls "the deep stupidity of our political discourse"? Deliberately deep stupidity: now *there's* change the reality based community can believe in!

Somehow, the deep stupidity of our political discourse actually manages to escalate during presidential campaigns, becoming even more vapid and idiotic than normal. But, as I argued continuously when I did my book tour in April and May for Great American Hypocrites, this is the kind of campaign the GOP runs every election and in which they specialize, and there are only two options for Democrats in response: (1) purport to "rise above it" and thus ensure that they get slaughtered in a one-sided, one-way War of Personality Demonization which renders issues irrelevant (hence: the all-American Everyman War Hero versus the rich, out-of-touch, effete elitist), or (2) attack the GOP candidate using the same lowly character themes in order to neutralize the attacks and prevent the election from being decided on these grounds. It's good to see the Obama campaign, finally, engaging these issues aggressively.

Translated from the Original Phrench, this equates to:

1. Can you believe how Stupid and Evil Rethugs are?

2. Thankfully, we in the Reality Based Community have superior morals. But nice guys are losers. Sometimes morals must give way to pragmatism.

3. Since we're not only more moral but also smarter, the right moral choice is to out-Stupid and out-Evil your opponent!

4. [The Green Glennwald Corollary] But it only acquires true moral shininess when you do it!

8. Whether Barry Obama is black enough. Or whether he was raised as a Muslim. Or whether he is "too rich" or "too educated". When did the Right begin having a problem with ambition? Though some of the criticism of people saying this is misguided, there are actually folks making these arguments, nutty as they sound.

My opposition to Barack Obama's candidacy springs from his political views and his character, not externalities shared by thousands of other Americans.

7. That John Edwards had an affair.
Trust me, I understand it was wrong. And I don't excuse what he did. And the double standard employed by the media really is inexcusable. But does that mean two wrongs make a right?

Edwards is not the only one involved here, and the spectacle of the press feasting on a family's private agony is just too ugly for words:

It is shameful that the tabloid press has followed him and hounded him into hotel basements and men's rooms and wrecked his wife's remaining life. Freedom of the press is precious, but so is the privacy of a man and woman and baby who are not running for anything. I really wonder if there are any limits on the viciousness of the tabloid press.

And finally, it would be interesting to know about the private life of the media people who presume to judge others I know a lot of them and to say they live in glass houses is putting it mildly.

I understand the hypocrisy issue. Really, I do:

In a posting on Daily Kos, Elizabeth Edwards pleaded for an end to "the present voyeurism." No one wants to add to Elizabeth Edwards's misery. She's been dealt a terrible hand.

Except, he was the one who told us that character counted. As in these remarks about Bill Clinton in 1999: "I think this president has shown a remarkable disrespect for his office, for the moral dimensions of leadership, for his friends, for his wife, for his precious daughter. It is breathtaking to me the level to which that disrespect has risen."

Or, in a March 2007 interview with Katie Couric discussing the return of Elizabeth's cancer: "I think every single candidate for president, Republican and Democratic, have lives, personal lives, that indicate something about what kind of human being they are. And I think it is a fair evaluation for America to engage in to look at what kind of human beings each of us are, and what kind of president we'd make."

What was Elizabeth Edwards thinking, sitting there with her husband the philanderer and Couric?

In fact, if she wanted to avoid "the present voyeurism," what was she thinking when she supported his running? She knew about his affair, she knew that everything about a presidential candidate's life is at risk of exposure, and she encouraged him? If she cared about shielding her family from this terrible intrusion, what did she think was going to happen if he won the nomination -- or the presidency?

But sometimes I wonder. Is there anything we are willing to leave public servants in the age of 24/7 TV and Internet scrutiny? Is there any private space to be human, to screw up, to make mistakes, to have (as Shakespeare's protagonists all did) tragic but in the end understandably human flaws?

My God, who would go into public life, knowing what we ask? Not me. Who would subject their family - their children - to this hell?

6. What Barry-the-Human-Barometer Thinks about the Surge... this week:

It's a miracle! Once again The Lightworker has brought his special brand of Audacious Hope to another failed state. I'm so sure the years my husband and thousands of other Marines, soldiers, airmen, and sailors have spent over there had nothing to do with it. You know, I have a feeling one day we'll all look back on this week and realize that THIS is the moment when the world began to heal.

Stay classy, Barry.

5. Whether John McCain and every "Christianist" POW who ever served with him in Vietnam imagined, made up, or were abducted and impregnated by space aliens who hypnotized them and forced them to recite the "cross in the dirt" story when they heard the words "CONE OF SILENCE":

Andrew Sullivan is not giving up and is linking to a Bud Day ad (Day was a P.O.W. with McCain and is a Medal of Honor winner) for John McCain that doesn't mention the cross story in a effort to make the case that the cross-in-the-dirt story is made up. The Day excerpt:

"Christmas of 1971 was centered around scripture that John had gotten from the first Bible we had been able to get from the Vietnamese," Day says in the first radio ad. "John composed an extremely compelling sermon that night about the importance of Christmas ... I think it was certainly a shot to everyone's morale to hear those Christian words in that very un-Christianlike place."

I've already linked to another Bud Day story on McCain's Christian beliefs. Rather then undercut the argument that McCain is a Christian, Sullivan and Co. are actually making the argument that McCain's religious beliefs have a depth that most voters never knew.

Eventually this will pass. I look forward to moving on and discussing more pressing issues like health care. And when we do, in fact, move on, friends of Senator McCain, like Bud Day, can talk about McCain's experience as a combat medic:

4. Who the father of Rielle Hunter's baby is.

You know what? This is NONE OF ANYONE'S DAMNED BUSINESS, whether you are on the right or the left. Who cares? Leave these people alone.

If you are on the right, try being happy this woman didn't have an abortion. Stop calling for a paternity test. And for God's sake, get a life of your own.


3. Who Barack Obama is going to pick for VP.

Does anyone care about this anymore? This man has got to be the world's biggest dick tease. Jenna Jameson is calling him for lessons. Mercy.

2. How many homes John McCain’s dog, wife, sheep, cow, wholly-owned subsidiary, or former mistress whom no-one can conclusively prove actually had an affair with him but someone got a reeeeeeeally hot tip that was considered “substantial” enough to go to press with owns:

John McCain's family owns at least eight properties — not the seven Democrats are alleging or the four McCain's staff identified — according to a Politico analysis of property and tax records, as well as interviews.

John McCain's family owns at least eight properties — not the seven Democrats are alleging or the four McCain's staff identified — according to a Politico analysis of property and tax records, as well as interviews.

The presumptive Republican nominee, though, may have some wiggle room in explaining why he couldn't immediately provide an answer when asked by Politico how many houses he and his wife, Cindy, own. Sen. McCain himself does not own any of the properties. They're all owned by Cindy McCain, her dependent children and the trusts and companies they control!!!!

Shocking, I know. And now we can all sleep at night again.

And the #1 Thing I Do Not Give a Rat's Rosy Pink Patootie About....

[drum roll]

1. Conspiracy theories over Barack Obama's birth certificate, or either candidate's eligibility to serve as President.

Whatever you people are smoking, all I have to say is, "Can you please pass some of it my way?"

Because it appears to be some really mind blowing stuff. Two hits of whatever you've been puffing away at and we'll all be ready to swear Dick Cheney is the illegitimate love child of Val Plame and Karl Rove.

And who knows... maybe it's even true.

Posted by Cassandra at August 22, 2008 07:15 AM

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I have run out of concern for just about anything in this Election Season.

Is it too late to call do-over?

Posted by: Mac at August 22, 2008 04:43 PM

Heh.

Remember when we were kids? It would be so awesome if we could just start over.

Or just have some serious debates, call a moratorium on scandals, and then just vote. What a concept.

Posted by: Cassandra at August 22, 2008 04:53 PM

*munching popcorn*

Posted by: BillT at August 22, 2008 04:57 PM

With butter?

Posted by: Cassandra at August 22, 2008 05:40 PM

The issues don’t matter. Most voters have concluded their positions on abortion, legal and illegal immigration, higher/lower taxes, more government spying on it’s citizens, foreign adventures, et al. The position of those running for office on these issues has been known since back in the early Mesozoic Era. So we/they are left to fill the dead air and blank pages between back then and November. What better way than scandal, innuendo, rumor, insinuations, and allusions to this or that from the past. You may hope for our better nature to take hold and I shall hope for a two or three month electioneering window but we will both have our hopes dashed.

Posted by: george at August 22, 2008 05:56 PM

Not that I am a Monarchist, nor have dark wishes for Parliamentarism, but they have a better concept on this election bidnezz.

The PM first dissolves the Parliament, and calls for Elections. All the politicos scramble madly for a month, at which time elections are held.

Then all go back to scheduled program.

*hmmm, I love caramel on my popcorn*

Posted by: Boquisucio at August 22, 2008 06:09 PM

Yanno.... I watched the Brits in the House of Commons and it was really a hoot. You may have a point - it was riveting. So much more interesting than our Congressvarmints.

Posted by: Cassandra at August 22, 2008 06:18 PM

Boquisucio
"Not that I am a Monarchist, nor have dark wishes for Parliamentarism"


Why not? I'd switch in a New York minute.

Posted by: george at August 22, 2008 06:20 PM

I agree with you about most of these - especially the Edwards/Hunter items. Even if Edwards deserves the nasty discourse, I don't think his wife does. And even writers who say she does because she encouraged him to run knowing about the affair don't seem to be able to come up with an explanation of why the children involved deserve to hear about this over and over and over. *All* the children - whoever their fathers are.

I must admit, though, to a fascination with the whole "Born in the USA" kerfuffle - at least the Obama side. (The McCain side seems ridiculously simple.) I don't think there's anything to it but it's like a giant train wreck - I just can't look away. I'm riveted by the way each at least somewhat discredited claim gives way to a new one: not born in the USA; okay, born in the USA but mother not old enough; okay, mother old enough but Kenyan too; okay, not Kenyan too but Indonesian; okay no longer Indonesian but even though Constitution says "natural born" it really means never a dual citizen.

And think of all I've learned: Article II of the Constitution; Title 8, Section 1401 of the US Code; the physical presence requirement; endless technical data about PhotoShop; The Master Nationality Rule of the Hague Convention of 1930; the Kenyan Constitution; the Federalist Papers; Indonesian adoption law; the United States Naturalization Act of March 26, 1790. I'm sure all of this will stand me in good stead in the future. After all, you never know when you'll have to pass a pop quiz in International Law And Photo Retouching.

However, even I may have reached a limit on this subject. I saw a link to an article now claiming Obama has not one, not two, not three, but FOUR nationalities and I didn't click through. I just couldn't do it. I guess it's back to trying to figure out how many half-sisters Cindy McCain actually has.

Posted by: Elise at August 22, 2008 06:49 PM

Oh well - If Monarchy is what we want at least make me a lower noble. Page or Esquire of Prince George's County would be fine, Oh Blog Princess.

*the only thing I hate 'but caramel popcorn is the sticky keyboard it leaves behind*

Posted by: Boquisucio at August 22, 2008 06:59 PM

Elise, I am at the point now where I wake up in the morning, look in the bathroom mirror, and scream, LEAVE BARACK OBAMA ALONE!!!! YOU *BASTARDS*! HE'S A HUMAN!!!!

Posted by: Cassandra at August 22, 2008 07:06 PM

...and then, of course, I shake it off and walk into my office and write something moronic.

But hopefully not about whether he's a Muslim.

Posted by: Cassandra at August 22, 2008 07:07 PM

To escape our national election cycle and everything it entails I would gladly accept a Monarchy, even if it meant I could aspire to no more than than the position of churl.

Posted by: george at August 22, 2008 07:08 PM

*dousing Bill's popcorn with butter*
*passing around nachos and grapefruit soda*
Gives Cass a bottle of coffee liquor.

heh.

Actually, I am a bit more interested in the birth cert than I am in Pony's affair.

I guess I am not a desperate housewife, but it isn't so much who his parents are (duh) but if he was born in the USA.

That's all.

Posted by: Cricket at August 22, 2008 07:26 PM

"I am at the point now where I wake up in the morning, look in the bathroom mirror, and scream, LEAVE BARACK OBAMA ALONE!!!! YOU *BASTARDS*! HE'S A HUMAN!!!!"
That's you!? I thought it was my neighbor, Morticia Adams having a moment with Gomez again... bah dah dah dah, bum bum... =8^}

Posted by: bt_what-me-worry_hun at August 22, 2008 07:32 PM

OK guys, who hasn't thought of this? His wife is rich, good looking, and owns a bar.

Incoming!

Posted by: Allen at August 22, 2008 08:03 PM

"His wife is rich, good looking, and owns a bar.
That reminds me of something...

Oh yeah, it Friday and it's beer-thirty so I offer a toast to building wealth, looking good while doing so and owning warehouses full of beer!

And of course campaigning on and having the major media cover the important issues facing the nation.

Salute!

Enjoy. =8^}

Posted by: bt_what-me-worry_hun at August 22, 2008 08:17 PM

"Jenna Jameson is calling him for lessons. Mercy"

Thankfully, I had already swallowed my ice tea, or that might have been sprayed on the keyboard, monitor, and surrounding area. This makes the top 10 of things I didn't ever expect to read here........

Posted by: Bob at August 22, 2008 09:02 PM

Bthun, time to saddle up the trusty horse, and ride to dinner.

The electoral question, when I arrive, is what kind of meat shall I have burned, and the vice choice, what libation?

Tri-tip and Beer, Chicken and Wine. I need a Horseborne Food pundit to make the choice for me.

Tis ponderous. But, I shall ride into the valley of food.

Posted by: Allen at August 22, 2008 09:18 PM

I would go with the tri-tip, with a South Carolina type sauce...iceburg lettuce wedges with
blue cheese dressing, garnished with crispy fried diced bacon. The other side dish is a choice of salt boiled potatoes or caramelized onion couscous.

Libation? Since yer an adult, I leave that to you.

Dessert? Peach cobbler with a sidecar of vanilla ice cream.

There.

That'll do you until brekkies, won't it?

I fergot the Fleur de Sel on the popcorn.

SORRY!

Posted by: Cricket at August 22, 2008 09:30 PM

Cricket, tri-tip with a SC sauce? Clearly we can have issues about the best way to do a pig-pickin (SC vs NC)

Best meal ever, Outer Banks Boil. Here's the recipe:

1 sand bar at low tide
Boats and people
Boiling Utensils
Shrimp
Red Taters
Silver Queen corn

Over there on the other side of the sandbar.

Boiling oil
Hushpuppys

Serve with beer, paper plates, and get the heck out of there when the tide somes in.

Cheers

Posted by: Allen at August 22, 2008 09:50 PM

If it makes you feel any better I had to Google "Jenna Jameson" the first time I heard her name - a few years back. I had no earthly idea who she was.

The Intertubes have been an education, that is for certain :p

Posted by: Agent 99 at August 22, 2008 10:50 PM

I can't tell you how impressed I am that you were able to narrow down to ten a topic like things I don't give a rat's ass about.

Salute.

Posted by: Pile On at August 22, 2008 11:01 PM

"Best meal ever, Outer Banks Boil. Here's the recipe: ..."
Let's eat! But between Cricket and Allen, it doesn't sound to me as if any advice is needed concerning the evening menu. =8^}

Now with the mention of the Outer Banks the Way-Back Mocheen starts humming... The power grid is loaded down momentarily and recollections of Friday nights in Columbia Maryland, outfitted in bib overalls for the weekly crab fest-demolition derby, covered in old bay seasoning, mallet in one hand and a frosty mug of brew in the other appears on the WBM-screen. Just in time the scene reveals everyone at the table spontaneously deciding that a road trip to Kitty Hawk is in order... Then in a fit of youthful exuberance, rationality's lobotomized, not to mention ugly cousin, a marginally reliable old Chevy van is driven most of the night to the destination.

Upon arrival, the gang falls out to sleep on the beach and then watches the sun rise over the Atlantic... Just because the midnight Chincoteague road trip has already been done.

Youth is wasted on the young.

*How am I doing at avoiding the 10 items for which the Princess will not trade a rodents posterior?*

If my old road trip buds from Columbia, Brian or Kathy, yeah you know who you are, get wind of this, please drop me a line via my email.

Salute!

Posted by: bt_in-an-indeterminate-state_hun at August 22, 2008 11:09 PM

*Sticky finners - Sticky finners*

Troublemaking 'Rican Throws Gasoline on the Blog Princess' Embers & Ducks.

Posted by: Boquisucio at August 22, 2008 11:25 PM

*ducks as high velocity rodent posterior packed with willy pete™ sails overhead towards troublemaker...*

Posted by: bt_what-me-worry_hun at August 22, 2008 11:39 PM

Throws Gasoline on the Blog Princess' Embers & Ducks.

Boq, you ninny. She doesn't have ducks, she has marmosets.

With butter?

And salt. Anybody in my line of work who worries about cholesterol and hypertension probably doesn't have a real firm grip on reality.

Posted by: BillT at August 23, 2008 02:25 AM

Hah. I knew you liked real butter and salt on yer popcorn. The only way to eat it, MHO.

As to the beef tri-tip with SC sause, lemme 'splain. The two meat options were beef and chicken. Since beef is richer than chicken, but not as toothsome as pig, I opted for the sauce that would enhance the richness.

Now, educate me about NC sauce versus SC. I love good barbecue and tonight's dinner is fajitas. I have the flank steaks and marinade ready to go, along with the chicken for the non beef eaters.
We do them with the accompaniments and sides.

We do a boil a coupla times a year. The CLUs love that because it is easy, fun and soooo good.

Posted by: Cricket at August 23, 2008 04:08 AM

Pile, keep in mind that:

a - I am an impressive person, and
b - this list only references the election.

Posted by: Cass at August 23, 2008 08:34 AM

Elise, I am at the point now where I wake up in the morning, look in the bathroom mirror, and scream, LEAVE BARACK OBAMA ALONE!!!! YOU *BASTARDS*! HE'S A HUMAN!!!!

Ah. Then you don't buy the argument that Obama is, in fact, an - ahem - alien. :)

Posted by: Elise at August 23, 2008 08:45 AM

Still you are too modest Cass.

Posted by: Pile On at August 23, 2008 09:35 AM

But she's *impressively* modest.

Posted by: BillT at August 23, 2008 10:19 AM

Heh.
An alternate theory is that I just like to get up in the morning and scream when I see my reflection in the bathroom mirror.

Obama is just the excuse.

Posted by: Cass at August 23, 2008 10:22 AM

The electorate likes the drama, and they respond to negative campaigning. Bottom line for the candidates is that regardless of their personal dislike for mud-slinging, it works with the American voting public.

I recall hearing once that the Electoral College was set up as a safeguard because the founders didn't fully trust the judgment of the "people". I hate to say it, but I'm inclined to agree. There's just too much stupidity out there.

Posted by: Jeffrey at August 23, 2008 11:20 AM

The Edwards story isn't just about whether he fathered an illegitimate child. It's about how he's handled it. And whose money he's been spending to cover it up.

Posted by: Simon Scowl at August 23, 2008 12:57 PM

So when the DNC sits down to renegotiate its nominations process, Jeffrey, will you be in favor of more or less influence for the superdelegates? More or fewer caucuses?

It seems to me that what got us into this mess was insufficient democracy, not too much of it. The genuine popular judgment was a sounder choice.

Posted by: Grim at August 23, 2008 01:04 PM

If I recall correctly, a day or two ago I asked Jeffery about the the Electoral College and how that concept fit in with the Democrat delegate/super delegate construct.


I think it was in a thread that vectored off when Jeffery made a remark about disgust with PUMA, or lack of solidarity in the Dem ranks, or some such.

I suppose Jeffery ignored me on the assumption that I was just casting bait rather than genuinely curious.

So I'll say that I'm still curious on what a reasonable person on the street, albeit one of the liberal persuasion, thinks the DNC ought to do, if anything, to address the appointment of and weight given to the party's Super Delegates.

Posted by: bt_in-an-indeterminate-state_hun at August 23, 2008 01:25 PM

Well, that's really the problem with establishing an elite to make sure the hoi polloi don't run things. How do you make sure that the elite can both overrule the election, but also that the elite stays pure to your vision?

The Superdelegates are handpicked by the party's top figures (indeed, many of them are the party's top figures). The upper ranks of the party can be certain of retaining control over it, and therefore it makes sense (in this case) to ensure that the elite retains massive power over the electorate.

The Electoral College, though it is an elite that keeps the people from having final say, yet there's just not perfect control over it. In order to have a majority of electors, you have to have broad appeal across the many states and regions of the USA. This is because the number of electors is equal to your representation in Congress, which means that having a number of states as supporters is valuable, in addition to the value of the number of people supporting you. You can't have all your eggs in one basket (say, the urban-America basket). You have to find a way to appeal to people across the entire country.

That's hard to do, and it requires the parties to have to run after the people, rather than the other way around. As a system for insulating the powerful from the democracy, it's weak that way.

Posted by: Grim at August 23, 2008 02:24 PM

So I'll say that I'm still curious...

So am I, because I've never heard if Jenna Jameson ere now. However, judging from the title of the post and the nature of the reference, I do b'lieve I'll just continue to wallow in my iggerunce...

Posted by: BillT at August 23, 2008 02:25 PM

Ahhh... My still curious remark was concerning Jeffery's views on the DNC's Super Delegates. Are you saying that this Jameson woman is a DNC Super Delegate? =8^\

*ducks at the noise of a high velocity rodent tookus passing overhead*

Posted by: bt_what-me-worry_hun at August 23, 2008 02:57 PM

I *know* that.

However, the comment fit better than my superb imitation of crickets chirping, which is all you're likely to hear in the meantime.

Besides, Don B. is AWOL and I have to oppress somebody, or I'll need recurrent training.

Posted by: BillT at August 23, 2008 03:28 PM

Oh! Well in that case, I defer to your oppression sir!

But you must line up behind Walkin' Boss. She has Writ of First Right of Oppression on my person. =8^}

Posted by: bt_shakin'-the-bush-boss_hun at August 23, 2008 04:19 PM

I'll send KtLW over -- while the two of them are comparing Honeydew Lists, we can sneak out for a beer...

Posted by: BillT at August 23, 2008 05:18 PM

...because I've never heard if Jenna Jameson ere now.

VC: because it's educational.

Posted by: Cassandra at August 23, 2008 06:22 PM

The genuine popular judgment was a sounder choice.

Obama would not trust someone like you with the power of life and death choices, Grim. Why would the Democrats trust the people to make sound judgments?

Posted by: Ymarsakar at August 23, 2008 06:57 PM

Grim and bthun, I think the DNC's Super Delegates ought to mirror the Electoral College in terms of being informed by the popular vote with the ability to over-ride it as necessary. If it's over-ridden, there should be a clearly stated reason for doing so that accompanies the decision, but I can certainly see the need NOT to rely exclusively on the popular vote.

Posted by: Jeffrey at August 23, 2008 07:05 PM

Well, the Electoral College wasn't quite intended to be the final tool in the toolbox for the Oppressive White Male Patriarchy (sniff!), but a relic of that quaint idea of bi-cameralism, which was a deal to give the small states some power in the government out of proportion to their size. It has sort of protected us from Parliamentarian type government (a plague that descends on many European governments), and makes the American political landscape focus on two parties. We are a Republic, after all.

My interpretation of the Democrat Super Delegates is to allow the Power Brokers in the party a Last Chance to fix dumb things that the Primary voters might do. Historically, the Democrat Party has always been LESS democratic in picking its nominees than the Republican party. Check out the choice of Adlai Stevenson in 1952.

And if I were in Kitty Hawk some night, while I like and have had the Boil idea, I would mosey up the road and have dinner at the Black Pelican. Mile 12 on the Beach Road. Be there.

Posted by: Don Brouhaha at August 23, 2008 08:24 PM

kewl. I went on to their site and read the legend of the black pelican.

Posted by: Cricket at August 23, 2008 10:05 PM

This is somewhat off-topic but since the Electoral College has come up and is apparently approved of around here, I want to point out the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact just in case I'm not actually the last person in the world to have heard of it.

It's a plan to make an end run around the Electoral College without the need for one of those pesky Constitutional amendments to get rid of it. I think it's both dangerous and arrogant and am embarrassed to admit that my state (NJ) has signed on. Apparently the backers hope to have it in place in time for the 2012 elections.

Posted by: Elise at August 23, 2008 10:54 PM

Elise -- NJ will continue to embarrass us for as long as we allow the Democrats to keep hauling the dead from their graves to vote in Hudson and Union Counties...

Posted by: BillT at August 24, 2008 04:16 AM

Regarding the NPVIC, that is why I asked Jeffery the question I did.

Looking at who is behind NPVIC (the stolen election heralds and urban centers) and then trying to reconcile the Super Delegate is but one more thing that drives me to drink. Well maybe it only holds the door.

Posted by: bt_in-an-indeterminate-state_hun at August 24, 2008 09:17 AM

BillT, I'm from Essex County. Union and Hudson are practically foreign countries.

I know what you mean, bt - there does seem to be a philosophical disconnect between "Down With The Electoral College" and "We Need Superdelegates". Practically speaking, however, the party leaders believe both stances will lead to their victory.

My prediction about the NPVIC is that if enough states sign up for it - and the Supreme Court doesn't strike it down - the very next election will feature a Republican winning the popular vote and a Democrat winning the Electoral College.

Hey, a girl can dream.

Posted by: Elise at August 24, 2008 12:44 PM

This should definitely be over. China's athletic council has confirmed that Sen. Obama was a U.S. born citizen.

Posted by: Hummer at August 24, 2008 12:50 PM

Elise -- Mercer County. Down here, *Trenton* is almost a foreign country...

Posted by: BillT at August 24, 2008 02:29 PM

I think Trenton is a foreign country to most of New Jersey.

Posted by: Elise at August 24, 2008 08:05 PM

Trenton is the South Ossettia of NJ? Can we get somebody, like Canada, to annex them, then?

Posted by: Ymarsakar at August 24, 2008 10:03 PM

Trenton is more like the Kosovo of NJ.

But Canadian money is an accepted currency there -- a lot of folks from the Great White North pass through on their way to the Shore to thaw out.

Posted by: BillT at August 25, 2008 03:16 AM

Just wondering.

Who really gives a rat's ass for anything?

"Well, I've been looking to find a rat's ass to give him, but they're actually rather difficult to obtain."

And who accepts a rat's ass for anything?

"Sorry, I'm not selling you my barbie collection for a rat's ass. It's cash or no deal."

Just curious... Never mind me, I'm blondering. Or is it pondogging? Something like that.

.

Posted by: OBloodyhell at August 25, 2008 11:40 AM

Watch it, bub. I'll have you know my a** is considered legal tender in many a port of call.

Word.

Posted by: A. Rat at August 25, 2008 11:57 AM

[breathing heavily]

Oooooooh. I just *love* rat tuckii...

You have noooooooo idea.

Posted by: Jenna Jameson at August 25, 2008 11:59 AM

Hummer,
Maybe so, but that the copy of his birth certificate they have put him at 16 years, 2 months old is a little suspicious.

Posted by: Yu-Ain Gonnano at August 25, 2008 12:38 PM

read some in depth analysis of the birth cert. its his sisters... and its work you can do yourself, and confirm.

he has yet to provide a real one, his does not match any of the real ones people acquired for compare.

the problem is that one has to go through literally pages and pages of dry forensic explanations with all the evidence there.

most people would rather pick a source and trust whatever conclusion they make.


the birth cert makes a difference in precident. once it fails, it will not matter any more, and having foreigners and those too young to lead, is a plank of the left.

Posted by: artfldgr at August 25, 2008 01:36 PM

8. Whether Barry Obama is black enough.

If he is elected president, he damn well better be black enough. This way Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and the rest of the racial victimology brigade will have to just STFU.

Posted by: Tony at August 25, 2008 02:34 PM

The Thunder Run has linked to this post in the - Web Reconnaissance for 08/25/2008 A short recon of what’s out there that might draw your attention, updated throughout the day...so check back often.

Posted by: David M at August 25, 2008 03:19 PM

Well, you summed up my exact list, however when it comes to Edwards, there's an issue no one seems to be pointing out. I could give a flying flock if he had an affair and all his hypocracies, I have more of a problem with the fact his little tart had been hired to produce Web documentaries for the Edwards campaign, at a cost of $114,000, even though she had no filmmaking experience.

Posted by: Mrs G at August 25, 2008 03:28 PM

Bill pass the popcorn please

Posted by: Mrs G at August 25, 2008 03:33 PM

What? You mean experience is important in hiring the filmmaker for a presidential campaign? Next thing, you'll be suggesting it might matter for the candidate, too.

Posted by: Grim at August 25, 2008 03:33 PM

Her experience lied elsewhere.

Posted by: Mrs G at August 25, 2008 03:48 PM

*extending large bowl of popcorn to Mrs. G*

Posted by: BillT at August 25, 2008 03:53 PM

Cassandra is a show all on her own. Too bad I don't like to drink or eat anything while watching movies.

Posted by: Ymarsakar at August 25, 2008 07:06 PM

Let me say this re: the candidates' eligibility for office. If there was a serious concern about either's qualification to hold office, do you REALLY think their (respective) opponent would not bring a legal challenge? REALLY? Has that happened from either side? No? Then perhaps there is no serious concern about their eligibility!!! Sheesh.

If you're really concerned about it, I am eligible to be President this year. I turned 35 last November, and I was born in Pennsylvania (induced on a Saturday so my mother's OB/GYN wouldn't get called out of the Steeler's game he had tickets for on Sunday). Vote for me. :P

Posted by: MikeD at August 26, 2008 11:45 AM

Has that happened from either side?

Yup. A Philadelphia lawyer (really!) named Phillip Berg has filed suit, claiming Barry never re-applied for citizenship after he was adopted by his step-father in Indonesia.
http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/08/21/obama-is-a-us-citizen/

It really *does* keep writing itself, duddenit?

Posted by: BillT at August 26, 2008 04:07 PM

Is Philip Berg associated with the RNC or John McCain? No, he's one of Hillary's supporters. Again, I cannot help but think if either Senators McCain or Obama were truly ineligable for the office then the other side would be raising royal hell daily.

Posted by: MikeD at August 26, 2008 04:18 PM

"The candidates have now officially been campaigning since the early Mesozoic Era." And the carefully-nuanced MSM's coverage is abut 10,000 to 1 for Obama over McCain. This may be the first election decided by the media.

"9. What, exactly, is the big deal about John McCain living off his wife's money?" For some unaccountable reason, that wasn't brought up about Senator Kerry.

"John McCain's family owns at least eight properties..." Anybody know how may properties Pelosi owns? (A lot more than that.) The RNC are right to fire back with the "and here's Obama's half-brother's house" ad.

Philadelphia lawyer (really!) named Phillip Berg has filed suit, claiming Barry never re-applied for citizenship ..." That's the Chicago Way. Obama got in his first sinecure in Chicago by going through the voter rolls and disqualifying all his opponents. Quite legal, and typical Chicago politics. I almost hope this guy wins, so Obama can get a taste of his own asafoedita.

We can borrow a phrase from the Olympics (now that they're not using it: "Let the games begin".

Posted by: ZZMike at August 26, 2008 04:44 PM

...the other side would be raising royal hell daily.

October Surprise.

*putting out several bowls of popcorn*

Posted by: BillT at August 26, 2008 05:12 PM

A rat's ass is a sacred and endangered species.

Posted by: Ymarsakar at August 26, 2008 10:01 PM

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