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September 02, 2008

Integrity

Maximum respect.

Not sure I agree about the "we have lost" part. But the honesty takes guts.

Via Glenn, by way of Bloodthirsty Liberal.

There are a lot of good people out there, and they aren't all conservatives. It's good to remember that.

Posted by Cassandra at September 2, 2008 07:35 PM

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You know, when Bush was the target of this derangement a good many of his supporters got weak in the knees and would distance themselves from him. I have my disagreements with him but it isn't him. When he is gone it will be someone else as it was Gingrich and Delay before him.

Eight years ago McCain was the media darling. Four years from now he will be Hitler.

Posted by: Pile On at September 2, 2008 07:55 PM

That is something you and I have always seen eye to eye on.

Maybe it's the Taurus thing :p
Or maybe it's because they put you back in the drawer for ten years...

Heh.

Posted by: Cass at September 2, 2008 08:17 PM

Ten years? I only look that young.

Posted by: Pile On at September 2, 2008 08:27 PM

You guys are fellow Taurii? Well, shazam! I knew there was something I liked about you!

I agree that the wacko Left really shot themselves in the foot with this one. Now that the Obamamessiah Himself has proclaimed it reprehensible, the MSM acolytes will have to follow the creed as Holy Writ. One of the rare times you will see liberal journos criticizing some of their own fellow-travellers.

Posted by: a former european at September 2, 2008 08:28 PM

Ten.

Or nine, Pile. It's pretty close to that. I can't remember exactly how much younger you are than I am but it was a lot :p

Posted by: Never dare me :p at September 2, 2008 08:34 PM

"I can't remember exactly how much younger you are than I..."

I've heard that *old* age will do that to ya....

*ducking and running*
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Posted by: Snarkammando at September 2, 2008 08:52 PM

Well, you are all mostly younger than me (I think Mathmom and I are the same age, for some reason), and we are ALL younger than spd rdr.

But I think he's got more money than all of us. Drat.

Lawyers.

Posted by: Don Brouhaha at September 2, 2008 09:22 PM

Well, it did take courage to holler foul on the trash talkers, but at least we know to whom we can speak when we want a rational discussion.

Posted by: Cricket at September 2, 2008 09:54 PM

Don Brouhaha -

Are you 36? That is my age (in hexadecimal, anyway...)

Posted by: MathMom at September 2, 2008 10:07 PM

...and I'm Pisces. Anyone else one o' them fishies?

Posted by: MathMom at September 2, 2008 10:09 PM

There are a lot of good people out there, and they aren't all conservatives. It's good to remember that.

Statistics have already proven that, Cass.

Posted by: Ymarsakar at September 2, 2008 10:42 PM

Hexadecimal?

Now you're going all Math-momish on me! :D

Woot! I think you are as old as spd rdr, if I figure that one a-rightly.

Posted by: Don Brouhaha at September 2, 2008 11:22 PM

I've raised four daughters to adulthood, so I am, what many might consider, an "expert" at helpless fraught, incontrovertible dismay and illogical, senseless worry.

Did I say illogical? I lied.

But I sooner kiss a pig than play one.

Posted by: spd rdr at September 2, 2008 11:38 PM

Don -

This may help.

Posted by: MathMom at September 2, 2008 11:59 PM

Hexadecimal? Hold on a minute, let me grab my abacus. I didn't even know you knew ancient Sumerian.

Posted by: a former european at September 3, 2008 12:47 AM

...we are ALL younger than spd rdr.

Bets?

Posted by: BillT at September 3, 2008 06:18 AM

Carrie's a Pisces.

And '36' isn't old. Once you hit about 45, I don't think a year or two makes very much difference anymore anyway.

It seems like just yesterday that I was turning 40 :p Certainly I don't feel any older. Where does the time go?

As bthun likes to say, don't blink. :)

Posted by: Cass at September 3, 2008 06:49 AM

I am indeed a Pisces, Mathmom

And if we're talking age, I am the youngest poster here but only because I have a leap year birthday.
I am 11. :)

Posted by: Carrie at September 3, 2008 07:00 AM

"But I sooner kiss a pig than play one"

Pucker up, spd baby...

Posted by: Wilbur at September 3, 2008 07:04 AM

Ooooh!

Hot pig-on-pig action :p I don't know if I can handle that, this early in the morning....

[sipping coffee and settling back in her leather office chair to watch the fireworks]

Posted by: Cass at September 3, 2008 07:14 AM

Actually I think Pile and KJ are younger :p

Grim's barely out of nappies, too, isn't he?

*running away before he sics one of his horses on me*

Posted by: Cass at September 3, 2008 07:17 AM

running away before he sics one of his horses on me*

Posted by: Cass at September 3, 2008 07:17 AM

Don't you mean sits versus sics?

Posted by: Carrie at September 3, 2008 07:20 AM

That too :p

Posted by: Cass at September 3, 2008 07:41 AM

Grim has a son who is barely out of nappies, anyway. I was just reflecting yesterday on how long it has been since I've had to change a diaper (a year or so!) and how nice that heretofore unnoticed fact has been.

On the other hand, the boy keeps getting big so fast. Every time I look at him, he's twice the size he was before.

Posted by: Grim at September 3, 2008 07:48 AM

Honestly Grim :)

It is no fun teasing you if you are not even going to rise to the bait. You are as bad as spd.

Men and their stoicism :p Sheesh.

*rolling eyes*

Posted by: Cass at September 3, 2008 08:29 AM

re: little boys, I was talking with my sister in law this weekend. She has two girls and a boy (my nephew Liam). He was running around torturing his older sister and I was laughing at him.

She said, "You were right about little boys. There is nothing sweeter than a baby boy. They just love to be cuddled."

And that is true. I remember my two - I loved it so much when they were small. I loved putting them in the tub after dinner, and playing with them, and then putting them in their PJs and combing their hair just right and then getting out the storybooks and settling in on the sofa or on their beds to read for about 45 minutes every night. It was the only time I got to love on them, and they liked it too as long as I wasn't too obvious about it.

But you can't mess with them during the day when they are about the busy-ness of being a boy. It interferes with their toughness, and that breaks a mother's heart because she longs to gather them up in her arms. The only exception is when they come running to you with a scraped knee.

Or later, with a broken or troubled heart.

There is nothing sweeter than a boy. They are like chestnuts: tough on the outside but so tender on the inside.

Posted by: Cass at September 3, 2008 08:35 AM

Mathmom,

thanks for the converter, which confirms what I did in my head (which is pretty empty, and has rlenty of room for that stuff). :)

And BillT is probably the dustiest one here, for all that. :)

36 in hexadecimal is.....a little more than 36 in base 10, where most of us live. Leave it to Mathmom to be clever and make us decode something like that.

Posted by: Don Brouhaha at September 3, 2008 08:51 AM

Well, don't tell him I said so when he gets a little older, but mine is a pretty sweet little boy too. :)

Posted by: Grim at September 3, 2008 09:02 AM

I checked my age in hexadecimal and got an alphanumeric.

I think they ran out of plain numbers...

Posted by: BillT at September 3, 2008 09:06 AM

I'm 43 in base eight. Does that count for anything?

And Bill, in hex:
A=10
B=11
C=12
D=13
E=14
F=15

But I somehow suspect you already knew that.

Posted by: MikeD at September 3, 2008 10:50 AM

"*running away before he sics one of his horses on me*
Posted by: Cass at September 3, 2008 07:17 AM"

"Don't you mean sits versus sics?
Posted by: Carrie at September 3, 2008 07:20 AM"

Damn time zone difference! That's what I was going to say!!
0>;~}

Posted by: DL Sly at September 3, 2008 11:36 AM

My wife is just short of 36, MathMom, but I've strayed up into the alpha-numeric range, perhaps not quite as far as Bill (but I dunno).

Posted by: socialism_is_error at September 3, 2008 12:35 PM

A=10
B=11
C=12
D=13
E=14
F=15

I almost had a mid-air with an A-10 and almost got shot down by an F-15 -- does that count?

Posted by: BillT at September 3, 2008 01:38 PM

I'm a classic Capricorn - too rational to believe in astrology. And I'm not going to reveal my age in any base.

My head is going to explode. I tracked down the Times article Sarah Peyser referenced and Holy Irony, Batgirl! Phyllis Schlafly is the most reasonable woman in the article. I need to go lie down.

Jane Swift has a lot of nerve blaming her children and her postpartum hormones for her decision to soak the taxpayers of Massachusetts by refusing to live near her office and refusing to hire baby-sitters. That's not maternal instinct - that's greed and arrogance. Sheesh!

Finally - and this makes me cry - where *are* Hillary Clinton and Geraldine Ferraro and Nancy Pelosi? They should be breathing fire and brimstone at the way Palin has been attacked and even more at the way her daughter has been smeared. I blamed Hillary Clinton for the death of feminism as I understood it back in the 90s. I guess it was naive of me to have begun to believe I was wrong.

Posted by: Elise at September 3, 2008 02:02 PM

When I turned 39 (base 10), staring at the Big Four-Oh had me a little bit down. MathMan said, "Don't worry, you're only 27 in hex!" That's why I keep him. :)

Carrie - does your mommy know you're posting here? You're supposed to be 18! ;)

Posted by: MathMom at September 3, 2008 02:13 PM

To complicate the age issue further, MathMan is 60, his heart is 24. So we average his ages, which makes him, what, 42?

Posted by: MathMom at September 3, 2008 02:17 PM

..."too rational to believe in astrology. And I'm not going to reveal my age in any base."
Words to live by.

I think Grim said somewhere that the news, slanderous lies and innuendo (splitting hairs attempting a distinction, eh?) perpetrated upon Governor Palin and her family would only fortify his efforts to defend her. For the time being, I think I'll just glom onto that sentiment since I'm still too disgusted with the behavior of the major media and our more progressive citizens to attempt to say anything civil.

Funny thought but would it not be grand if each hyena behind the attacks had their very own Dorian Gray portrait to remind them of their contributions.

Beyond that, I'm disgusted beyond words. A rare occurrence.

Posted by: bt_bitter&clingy_hun at September 3, 2008 02:34 PM

60? I trust we've shifted back to decimal; either that or you have the mother (MathMother?) of all May/Decembers. ;)

Posted by: socialism_is_error at September 3, 2008 02:34 PM

"...where *are* Hillary Clinton and Geraldine Ferraro and Nancy Pelosi?"

I would estimate that Pelosi lacks the required class and Ferraro is likely frozen out of the media after her earlier no-no.

Senator Clinton? She might give some thought to this if she envisions a future (and you know that she does). Any civil person will mark whatever response or lack of response that she makes, especially if Governor Palin convincingly rises above it.

I haven't watched any of the theater thus far, but I think I'd like to see what she says tonight.

Posted by: socialism_is_error at September 3, 2008 02:49 PM

SiE -

Yeah, we're back in decimal.

We have more of an "August/December" marriage - only half a dozen years difference. MathMan said the idea of marrying a young chickadee is different than actually having an age gap in the marriage, because there are some things I don't really understand, like Buddy Holly. But after 22 years, we've managed to sort it out.

Posted by: MathMom at September 3, 2008 03:04 PM

I almost had a mid-air with an A-10 and almost got shot down by an F-15 -- does that count?
Posted by: BillT at September 3, 2008 01:38 PM

No, but that makes for some interesting stories that I would love to hear.

Posted by: MikeD at September 3, 2008 03:04 PM

Okay.

http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/tins_first_the_good_news.html

Posted by: BillT at September 3, 2008 03:27 PM

"Carrie - does your mommy know you're posting here? You're supposed to be 18! ;)"

*sicker*
*sort sort*
0>;~}

Posted by: DL Sly at September 3, 2008 03:44 PM

*passing the hat to purchase additional en's for Sassie to insert whenever Doc-Lady Sly feels the need to sark and go serk*

Posted by: BillT at September 3, 2008 04:01 PM

*Cassie*

Freudian slip induced by excessive exposure to sibilants.

Posted by: BillT at September 3, 2008 04:03 PM

MathMom, we line up with you two to a very close tolerance, just marked 21 years elapsed with a marginally greater degree of separation.

MathMan clearly knows his stuff. Carry on. :)

Posted by: socialism_is_error at September 3, 2008 05:10 PM

Hot pig-on-pig action :p I don't know if I can handle that, this early in the morning....

man, this womyn is out of control! Seriously.

I almost had a mid-air with an A-10 and almost got shot down by an F-15 -- does that count?

What, the pilots disapproved of your barber, Bill?

Damn time zone difference! That's what I was going to say!!

Getting slow there. Getting golder?

Posted by: Ymarsakar at September 3, 2008 05:12 PM

Ok, that's an awesome A-10 story (as expected), now the F-15? Ah nevermind, I will just search for it :)

Posted by: MikeD at September 3, 2008 05:23 PM

Shhhhhh. Don't tell Mike I haven't *written* the F-15 TINS!

Yet.

Posted by: BillT at September 3, 2008 05:38 PM

Sly *sort* *sort*s a lot, I've noticed. I bet she's really organized.

As for me, I think I'll go relive my 20s as the converter tells me I'm only 24 in hex. WOOHOO! Party like it's 1996! Heh. Ouch, I think I pulled something.

As much as I love my daughter, there *is* something special about little boys. Mine's 4 ("and a half" he will tell you) and there is nothing on earth as wonderful as his cuddles. He is all boy but loves to hold hands and loves to touch. I'd have 10 more if I could guarantee they'd be like him (minus the awful colic as a baby).

Carrie ~ you're such a BABY ;~P

Posted by: HomefrontS. at September 3, 2008 07:18 PM

"Getting slow there. Getting golder?"

No, Ymar, West coast/East coast time zones, tankjewburymuch.

Posted by: DL Sly at September 3, 2008 07:39 PM

Yeah, HF6, she is a baby.....oh, you're talking about her age.......
Never mind.
*sicker*
*sort sort*
(Where is Bill with those n's? I hope he doesn't send them via MongoGram delivery service.)
0>;~}

Posted by: DL Sly at September 3, 2008 07:48 PM

n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n

*gasp* *wheeze*

n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n

Posted by: BillT at September 3, 2008 08:25 PM

Mongo Delivery defunct. Ox gored. Made good steaks though.

Want steak and some beans? You know where this going...

Posted by: Mongo at September 3, 2008 08:40 PM

mmm...steak and beans...

Posted by: HomefrontS. at September 3, 2008 08:46 PM

Are those *Rollover* n's? Or do I have to use them all this month? I need to know these things, ya know. What happens if I run out of those "free" n's? Will I have to pay for them by the n? I don't think my budget can handle that considering the level of snark one must deliver to maintain a certain reputation around here.
0>;~}

Posted by: DL Sly at September 3, 2008 08:48 PM

Those are lifetime n's.

As in, Bill is putting himself at risk to create them; note the labored breathing.

Further production is contingent upon the negotiation of a suitable resuscitative method (and/or substance).

Posted by: socialism_is_error at September 3, 2008 09:45 PM

was it labored breathing or heavy breathing...inquiring minds want to know.

My money's on the latter.

Posted by: HomefroNtSix at September 3, 2008 10:15 PM

Whether the white flag has been raised by the Dem's or not, Governor Palin is up to the task before her.

She delivered a mighty fine speech in a confident, measured and polished fashion.

IMHO, she kicked booty!

Posted by: bthun at September 3, 2008 11:30 PM

Sar-AH! Sar-AH! Sar-AH!

Don't have to hold my nose to vote for McCain any more.

Posted by: MathMom at September 3, 2008 11:34 PM

And a small tribute to small town Americans.

Posted by: bthun at September 3, 2008 11:35 PM

In case anyone had their attention diverted and missed the speech Governor Palin just delivered at the RNC Convention, the transcript can be found here.

I'm certain the video will be available momentarily, unless the major media commits seppuku, or the progressives can mount a major ECM attack.

Posted by: bthun at September 3, 2008 11:59 PM

I'm going to get that video ASAP.

Posted by: Ymarsakar at September 4, 2008 12:13 AM

Btw, Cass, regardless of what you feel concerning Democrat or Republican sentiments and comments over issues, you might have noticed the slogans, prefered slogans, used at the Republican Convention over Democrat, current or previous, conventions.

Republicans choose to put the USA, country, first, and that is what they chant and think about. Democrats prefer to chant the name of their nominee. Kerry, Kerry. Edwards, Edwards.

This has some benefits, but a lot of negatives as well. Without charismatic leadership that sinks to the soul of an individual and demands their loyalty, vision, and determination, a lot less can get done. But too much personal loyalty, not to a creed or a nation, but to a person, can spell great destruction: such as Obama.

Posted by: Ymarsakar at September 4, 2008 12:18 AM

So what is it you all are looking for?-Cassandra

I'm looking for somebody that will kill America's enemies and stack them up like cordwood. That may seem rather simplistic, though.

Posted by: Ymarsakar at August 27, 2008 06:57 PM

Thank God some divinity was listening. I didn't believe they were, but somebody was.

Amen.

Posted by: Ymarsakar at September 4, 2008 12:32 AM

Posted by: Ymarsakar at September 4, 2008 12:33 AM

No, Ymar, West coast/East coast time zones, tankjewburymuch.

What, the West Coast is no longer golden? Say it isn't so!

Posted by: Ymarsakar at September 4, 2008 12:35 AM

Part two of her convention speech

The other link was her VP intro speech. Nice contrast, all in all.

Posted by: Ymarsakar at September 4, 2008 01:11 AM

Posted by: Ymarsakar at September 4, 2008 03:26 AM

NPR did their obligatory whining.

Sigh. We caught the last three minutes of her speech while we were driving back home. Now I have to drag my nose out of my ethics essay (I wonder how many split hairs can dance on the head of a pin) and go listen to her speech.

Life is good.

Posted by: Cricket at September 4, 2008 06:56 AM

Think Scott Glenn in “The Hunt for Red October”:

“Combat tactics, Mr. Ryan.”

The DNC/MSM axis of evil has been masterfully outflanked with a fresh breath of classical American.

Posted by: socialism_is_error at September 4, 2008 07:15 AM

Shhhhhh. Don't tell Mike I haven't *written* the F-15 TINS!

Yet.

Posted by: BillT at September 3, 2008 05:38 PM

You good sir, are a poo-poo head! Do you know after posting I'd search for it, I spent no less than an hour looking for it before retiring in defeat? And this morning I see this... *le sigh*

Mind you, it was an hour well spent since I read several other TINS (and laughed quite a bit). But Mr. T... all I have to say to you is

:P

Posted by: MikeD at September 4, 2008 10:14 AM

Mr. T gets that a lot.

Bill, step away from the F-15. They are having all sorts of issues and I know a certain Carborundum that really doesn't need any more stress right now. Go draw another cartoon or something!

Posted by: HomefroNtSix at September 4, 2008 11:00 AM

Why, HF6, you never cease to amaze me.

How'd you *know* I was working on another cartoon?

Relax, Mike -- when I write about the adventure with the F-15, I'll let you know.

BTW, the li'l pthbpbpbpbpbpt 'motie isn't effective over here. Humidity's only about 8% and the thpray evaporates before it gets past the tip of your nose...

Posted by: BillT at September 4, 2008 01:02 PM

I am omniscient. Either that or you are predictable.


I like the former.

Posted by: HomefroNtSix at September 4, 2008 02:22 PM

Relax, Mike -- when I write about the adventure with the F-15, I'll let you know.

I do certainly appreciate that sir. And thanks for already sharing so many fun stories.

Speaking of, not that this applies to you, but I recall a Navy CPO telling me once, the difference between a sea story and a fairy tale is the latter begins "Once upon a time..." and the former with "T.I.N.S."

Posted by: MikeD at September 4, 2008 03:13 PM

It was originally "the difference between a fairy tale and a *war* story."

However, the Navy whined that the phrase "war story" eliminated them from the running, so they changed it to *sea* story...

Posted by: BillT at September 4, 2008 03:42 PM

Ouch, Bill. You didn't like Horatio Nelson and Hornblower?

Posted by: Ymarsakar at September 4, 2008 04:13 PM

Nope -- all that sneaking around, cutting prize ships out of Froggy ports on moonless nights with longboats and muffled oars.

Neither one of them utilized their NVD capability nor their helicopters very effectively...

Posted by: BillT at September 4, 2008 05:42 PM

"Those are lifetime n's.

What?!! I only get 149 *sark* *sicker* and *sort* n's - period?! (No, not 'and a period'-- Period, as in fin, finito, no mas, Th-th-th-that's all folks.) Aw, man! I'll use those up before next payday -- and that's if I ration them out judiciously. It ain't right, I tell ya. Get me used to having n's in my *sark* and then only give me enough to last a few days. Pretty soon, I'll have to *aquire* n's from other places.....like visquee_ and Cassa_dra. Who knows where I could end up from there. One day I could be lying in the gutter, waiting for some community organizer to save me from the quagmire of my n-less *sark*.
0>;~}

Posted by: DL Sly at September 4, 2008 07:07 PM

Pallet, one each.

Contents: Crates, wooden, 27"x27"x27", 27 each.

Contents of crate, each: n's, 2-to-the-27th power, each.

Sign here, please: _______________________________

*Legibly*...

Posted by: BillT at September 4, 2008 07:38 PM

Dark Lord Sly 2017

Whooo Hoooo!!! Now I've got enough n's to *snnark* and *snnort snnort* all I want to!

*snnnnnicker*
heh
0>;~}

Posted by: DL Sly at September 5, 2008 12:28 AM

*surreptitiously slides crate of n's onto doorstep of the Blog Princess*

*whap!*

Hey! What was that fo-o-o....oh, hey! My marmoset from that caption contest! (a year ago) Cool. ('bout time)
Huh? Nu uh, I didn't say nuthin'.

Posted by: DL Sly at September 5, 2008 12:39 AM

Hey, I got Sly's autograph!

Anybody wanna bid before I put it up on e-Bay?

Posted by: BillT at September 5, 2008 03:19 AM

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