September 02, 2008
The Voice of "Moderation" Speaks
...Not just a disturbing thought, but a nightmarish one because the Republican nominee-to-be rang up an obscure wingnut with a walk-in closet full of skeletons in a fit of pique.
I just adore the smell of fear mongering in the morning. Don't you?
Posted by Cassandra at September 2, 2008 12:18 PM
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I'd take Sarah Palin over Joe Biden every day of the week. But surely Mr. Moderation there is not suggesting that someone would harm the Lightbearer, is he?
Posted by: MikeD at September 2, 2008 12:34 PM
I just can't wait to see Palin take her ulu to Joe Biden and eviscerate him in the VP debates. How will he convince anyone that the area set aside for drilling in ANWR is a pristine Eden, when he's talking to someone who has been there?
I remember his "I've got a higher IQ than you" meltdown in 1988. He has not gotten any better with age, and his vanity will be his downfall. His vanity is why he should not be allowed near the Oval Office. Sarah Palin may not the perfectly ready for the VP slot, but who (except maybe Rudy) really is? Who among all of the potential Dem or Rep VPs has actually had to face what might be in store, except for Rudy?
I don't think George Bush was ready for what hit on Sept 11, but he rose to the challenge and has done what Carter should have done all those years ago when Islamic fascism first reared its ugly head. So it will work out, if we can keep O'Biden out of the digs at 1600.
Posted by: MathMom at September 2, 2008 12:51 PM
I just can't wait to see Palin take her ulu to Joe Biden and eviscerate him in the VP debates.
An ulu's for flensing. You need a hafted knife for decent evisceration.
Posted by: BillT at September 2, 2008 01:18 PM
Uh....how old is Joe Biden, exactly?
Posted by: Cricket at September 2, 2008 01:20 PM
Well, then, I can't wait to watch her flense him. But, BillT, who says I want a "decent" evisceration? Any ol' evisceration will do. ;)
FWIW, I use my ulu for chopping things like cabbage.
Posted by: MathMom at September 2, 2008 01:29 PM
I'm reminded of another particularly memorable transfer of power, FDR to Truman (the haberdasher). But then I remembered reading that it didn't happen exactly as was reported in the history books. Read it, citizens, and then weep for our children.
Posted by: spd rdr at September 2, 2008 01:30 PM
Step to the front of the class, pls...
WHAP WHAP WHAP!!!!
What is it with boys? Always wanting to be spanked...
Posted by: The Frying Nun at September 2, 2008 01:57 PM
"What is it with boys? Always wanting to be spanked..."
Ahhhh, the pain!
Posted by: Snarkammando at September 2, 2008 02:05 PM
You can't handle the truth.
Posted by: spd rdr at September 2, 2008 02:29 PM
Oh yeah, Joe Biden will be ready to lead us, into what? LBJ might not have been the best comparison to make.
I'm not sure what her skeletons are, but based on what's been reported I'd say they're the kinds of things millions of families have faced. I'm shocked I tell ya, plain shocked.
Posted by: Allen at September 2, 2008 02:38 PM
Someone is cruising... :p
Yes Allen, I was shocked too. And as for "skeletons", I guess I have the same "skeletons" in my closet too. And my Bible-thumping, judgmental minister condemned me for my horrible sinning ways and cast me into the fires of Helk....
I get so tired of small minded people. This just goes to show that people are capable of rationalizing all sorts of hateful behavior while telling themselves how tolerant and progressive they are.
What a joke.
Posted by: Cass at September 2, 2008 02:49 PM
Small minded people need love, too, fascist.
Posted by: spd rdr at September 2, 2008 03:37 PM
They were right that it was proper to be respectful of Chelsea, who has grown into a lovely young woman.
Mostly. Grim. 'Cepting for all those times when they weren't like the time Senator McCain landed in a heap of trouble after he inserted his foot into his *bad boy* mouth by tasteless joke about Chelsea, Hillary and the Attorney General.
Posted by: Ingrid at September 2, 2008 03:43 PM
Oh my, I just read someone at ABC called it the "love child issue." I actually had to laugh. These people must be totally ignorant of how most Americans live their lives.
ABC, it's not a "love child" it's a baby. Yes she's young, yes she's going to need love and support from her family. Clue to the media, most Americans have actually dealt with these kind of things.
Posted by: Allen at September 2, 2008 03:43 PM
Posted by: Cass at September 2, 2008 03:44 PM
"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!" -Barry Goldwater, 1964.
Good thing for these folks that Barry is dead and gone. He would flense them with his tongue.
The game begins, again, then. Once more, dear friends, into the breech.
Posted by: Don Brouhaha at September 2, 2008 03:48 PM
He would flense them with his tongue.
Posted by: Yikes! at September 2, 2008 04:01 PM
This just goes to show that people are capable of rationalizing all sorts of hateful behavior while telling themselves how tolerant and progressive they are.
God how I HATE intolerant people! I just can't STAND them.
Posted by: MikeD at September 2, 2008 04:01 PM
My Texas buddy, Attila the Hun's right wing cousin, believe that when Obama falls several points behind McCain, that Obama will dump Biden; perhaps in favor of that Kansas Governor. Would then the Socialists change their tune about a woman VP candidate?
Posted by: Doug W at September 2, 2008 04:10 PM
...who says I want a "decent" evisceration?
You want her fingers to get all icky? Who *knows* where Joe Biden's viscera have been...
Posted by: BillT at September 2, 2008 04:13 PM
I use my ulu for chopping things like cabbage.
Sly uses a kukri for that chore, I think. Dunno what the fascination is with using furrin edged weapons as salad utensils...
Posted by: BillT at September 2, 2008 04:18 PM
I'm all for carrying on this very important discussion on an adult level.
My working mom can beat up your working mom, 'cause your working mom isn't really a working mom because a working mom is a person who stays at home to nurse her children, except when she's working, or is instead a community organization specialist, unless she gets recruited by a high-flying hospital with a direct interest in the kinds of universal healthcare legisltation that her senator husband might have want to present, in which case there's always the out of sending the kids to non-secular private school midnight basket ball meetings.
How many Advil does it take to kill yourself?
Posted by: spd rdr at September 2, 2008 04:49 PM
Only one, if it has a Glock.
Posted by: BillT at September 2, 2008 04:54 PM
If you're going to tell me old jokes, Ingrid, I'd prefer good ones.
Posted by: Grim at September 2, 2008 05:02 PM
Think of the drapes, Bill.
Think of the drapes.
Posted by: spd rdr at September 2, 2008 05:03 PM
Yup, McCain did make an disgusting joke about Chelsea in 1998. He was roundly criticized for it, abased himself, apologized profusely, and was forgiven.
I don't read Kos or Sullivan so maybe I'm missing some new posts over there but while I've read that there's been ugliness about Bristol I haven't seen universal criticism and haven't heard any apologies. And did anyone ever apologize for the stories about Trig really being Bristol's baby?
Everyone says stupid stuff; everyone says mean stuff; everyone says stuff they wish they could take back. What counts is whether you keep saying it or shut up, own up, and apologize.
Posted by: Elise at September 2, 2008 05:14 PM
McCain's reamrks regarding Chelsea Clinton were inexcusable. Period.
Next question, preferably regarding the redistribution of wealth through "progressive taxation" and "windfall profits."
And where is Nancy Peolosi?
Posted by: spd rdr at September 2, 2008 05:30 PM
The whole Obamamessiah thing has been done before. For a generation older than mine, just ask them about "Camelot". Watch as their eyes glaze over, and they enter a dreamy, euphoric state. Then listen as they describe "Camelot" in the reverential tones of adoration usually heard when a devout christian describes the anticipation of meeting Jesus in heaven. The holy savior JFK, and the blessed Jackie O.
Not having gone through that time, I have often asked my elders to explain this golden age of heaven on earth. When all was good, and just, and right with the world. Unfortunately, like a dream indeed, everyone is fuzzy on the details.
For most women with whom I have spoken on this issue, they talk about how young and handsome and charismatic JFK was, and how glamorous Jackie O. was. Really? That's it?
Because my progressive schooling in the modern education system has taught me that women are never wrong, except when they have been misled by patriarchal oppressors, I have chosen to adopt the wisdom of the sisters out there, and apply it to Sarah Palin.
Men should vote for Palin because she's young, hot, and definitely boneable (the description is more graphic because men are more direct than women who prefer more vague descriptions when saying they would like to bed a member of the opposite sex). She's definitely got the naughty librarian vibe going.
So there you have it. In the spirit of JFK and "Camelot", men should start a movement to vote for Palin on the same basis women voted for JFK. I can see the banners now "Palin, cause she's HOT!", "Palin, a babe for every working stiff", and "Pull your lever for Palin!"
Things become so easy when women 'splain it, Bobaloo!:)
Posted by: a former european at September 2, 2008 05:41 PM
For a generation older than mine, just ask them about "Camelot".
Tell me about it. I used to refer to JFK rather sarcastically as "Saint John of Kennedy" and get clawed by every female within earshot.
Then came the revelations that he was summat less-than-faithful to Guineve -- uhhhh -- Jackie.
Now I can't even string the letters Jay Eff and Kay together without being assaulted with, "What? That philanderer?" (I really *do* know people who use that word. *shrug*)
A woman scorned hath no fury as a Librul woman disabused of her fantasies...
Posted by: BillT at September 2, 2008 05:57 PM
I use my ulu for cutting SWHNOB's sandwiches in half. My kukri is my favorite multi-tasking tool: salads, rattlesnakes, coyotes, weeds, spiders.....and the only time it's *furry* is in connection with the previously mentioned coyotes. Unless you count the hairs shaved off an arm to test for blade sharpness after honing.
Posted by: Snarkammando at September 2, 2008 06:00 PM
AFE ( and the rest of this cruel bunch):
I actually saw JFK when I was a little boy, sitting on my Mom's shoulders as he spoke from the courthouse steps in Dayton, Ohio (a time honored tradition that started with Lincoln in 1860).
My father loathed him because of exactly the comment you made; women went ga-ga over him, senselessly. My dad's sister, for example. :)
He was shallow, underqualified, made a lot of stupid mistakes, was financed by his dad's (Joe Kennedy's) money, something of a genuine war hero, then was murdered by a psycho. A tragic end for a man who frankly deserved better. Even as a 7-year old kid, I remember where I was on Nov.22, 1963. He has been somewhat better remembered because LBJ got his agenda through Congress after he died.
"Camelot" was created after, by the apple polishers like Ted Sorensen. He was not that popular when he was assassinated, and would have had a real dogfight in getting re-elected in 1964.
Which brings us up to the present, I think.
There are some big differences between Obama and JFK, IMHO:
1) Obama is smarter
2) Obama is considerably more liberal
3) Obama is not as spontaneous a speaker, and this will show up in the debates, where he will start to morph into John Kerry.
4) Obama has a better jumper, and drives to the hoop better
5) Michelle is smarter than Jackie was, too.
6) And last, Obama is taller, browner and probably, heck SURELY, a much better father and husband than JFK was.
There are probably other major differences, but I have other things to do than analyze the political scene, comparing and contrasting BHO and JFK.
Posted by: Don Brouhaha at September 2, 2008 06:50 PM
Don, did it ever occur to you that your dad did not like JFK because caught him sitting on your moms shoulders?
Posted by: Pile On at September 2, 2008 06:59 PM
On the courthouse steps of all places. Sheesh.
Posted by: Pile On at September 2, 2008 07:03 PM
...would have had a real dogfight in getting re-elected in 1964.
Heh. My old CO said he was told, "If you vote for Goldwater, you'll be drafted and wind up in Vietnam!" He voted for Goldwater anyway, and, sure enough, he was drafted and wound up in Vietnam...
Posted by: BillT at September 2, 2008 07:04 PM
You've all become so jaded. Here I thought I was throwing out a grenade or two with the suggested Palin banners, and I get nary a raised eyebrow. Is it gonna take Cass dancing topless on the bar again to get your attention? (cut to crowd snorting in derision, "Take the fellow away, Jenkins, he's grown quite tiresome").
Don: Obama may play better hoops than white guys from the '60s, but you just know its gotta be the shoes. Air Jordans?:)
Posted by: a former european at September 2, 2008 08:17 PM
Is it gonna take Cass dancing topless on the bar again..
Are you *trying* to get me to dance topless...again, afe?
Posted by: Never dare me :p at September 2, 2008 08:25 PM
I finally got your attention, did I? The easiest way to obtain information is to suggest a fact and see how the lady reacts. Oh my.:)
Posted by: a former european at September 2, 2008 08:33 PM
Who you callin' "lady"? :p
Posted by: Never dare me :p at September 2, 2008 08:38 PM
Actually afe, me dancing topless would probably put everyone right to sleep.
Posted by: Zzzzzzzzzz...... at September 2, 2008 08:39 PM
To steal one of my spouse's aphorisms, I drive men mild :p
Posted by: Zzzzzzzzzz...... at September 2, 2008 08:40 PM
There was a big crowd in the streets that day, and 2 ft six inch, four year old gnome would never have seen JFK standing on my own two feet. And my Dad was at work, where normal people were during the day. Yeah, my Mom was 39 in 1960, and she still was pretty hot looking (until my younger sister was born and her figure went all dumpy).
I also remember that JFK had that funky skin complexion that made him look like he had good suntan, in October (?).
Posted by: Don Brouhaha at September 2, 2008 09:17 PM
"Actually afe, me dancing topless would probably put everyone right to sleep."
Well, if you were to add some mazola oil and visqueen to the *show* you could get JHD's attention......
Be careful of oiling the trapeze bar, though....
Posted by: DL Sly at September 2, 2008 10:03 PM
I see. You're for firing people who talk trash about Palin. Good for you.
Posted by: Ymarsakar at September 2, 2008 10:40 PM
Posted by: The Frying Nun at September 2, 2008 01:57 PM
That was evil, Cass.
Posted by: Ymarsakar at September 2, 2008 10:41 PM
Criminy! Sly, you and visqueen! Do you have stock in that or something?
Posted by: Don Brouhaha at September 2, 2008 11:25 PM
She places great stock in it, Don.
Posted by: Ymarsakar at September 2, 2008 11:58 PM
I wish I did. Hell, I'd take a nickel for everytime it gets a mention on this website alone. I might make enough money to pay attention!
Posted by: DL Sly at September 3, 2008 12:03 AM
Well, if we are going to talk about things which should be mentioned early and often on this site, then I humbly submit the immortal cowboy yodelling of the world-beloved SLIM WHITMAN!
Yes, according to the proto-infomercials of the 70s, the Great Man had then sold over 80 million records worldwide. Who knows what the total is today! His face and crooning voice are known from New York to New Delhi, from Baltimore to Burkina Faso. Everyone loves Slim Whitman!
His thick, luxuriant, handlebar mustache is the envy of Latino men and Arabs everywhere! And the ladies can barely resist his falsetto yodelling. Although singers like Elvis and Tom Jones often had women throwing panties and room keys at them, they were pikers compared to Slim.
While Slim was definitely the ladies man, he was usually far too busy for the horizontal bosanova. This was because of Slim's selfless dedication to the world. Why, Slim singlehandedly saved us from Martian invasion! A true patriot and great American, Slim answered his country's call in the 80s and volunteered to become an astronaut during Reagan's term in office.
People may ask: "Where has Slim been? I haven't hear about him since the 80s." Exactly, my friends! After turning back the martian invasion of Earth (see the documentary "Mars Attacks"), Reagan and Slim knew we had to save the Earth from future invasions by eliminating the problem at its source. Reagan stayed here to finish kicking Commie ass, while Slim selflesly volunteered to be NASA's first astronaut to Mars. Since arriving, Slim has spent the last several decades crisscrossing the Red Planet and belting out his falsetto cowboy yodelling. Countless evil martians have had their brains exploded thanks to Slim's crooning!
Slim heroically labors on, so that we may know the fruits of peace for ourselves, and our children. God bless you, Slim!
Posted by: a former european at September 3, 2008 01:12 AM
MH almost went to Slim Whitman High School....but the student body and governing council voted it down.
Posted by: DL Sly at September 3, 2008 01:32 AM
Yes, more schools should be named after the Great Man! Anyone else care to share with the group? One can never get enough of Slim Whitman.
Posted by: a former european at September 3, 2008 08:16 AM
Any gentleman who has one of his songs recorded by Rob Zombie is truly a Man for the Ages. Great bass lick...
Posted by: BillT at September 3, 2008 08:45 AM
any YouTube videos of Slim Whitman you would care to point us to?
Posted by: Don Brouhaha at September 3, 2008 08:55 AM
Don, I don't know how to do the insert link thing, but Youtube is chock full of Slim Whitman goodness. Just type in his name in the search engine. Happy listenin'.:)
Posted by: a former european at September 3, 2008 06:31 PM
I did. Actually, I hate to admit I liked a couple of songs of his that I played on Youtube, after all the nonsense we've given you about Slim.
I just thought you might offer up some of your favorites.
Posted by: Don Brouhaha at September 3, 2008 07:15 PM
Posted by: bthun at September 3, 2008 07:36 PM
Bthun: While there are many great singers and songwriters, I don't recall anyone but Slim saving us from a martian invasion! I guess its like saying there were many great western stars, but only one John Wayne.
Don: Slim is a concoction of mine. I do like his music, and oldtime cowboy songs in general, but I also wanted to satirize the 70s ad/hype blitzkrieg for Slim, as well as the religious fervor and adoration given by some to singers of days gone bye (see Elvis). Thus, Slim was my tongue-in-cheek creation to address this.
Posted by: a former european at September 4, 2008 02:59 PM
Thus, Slim was my tongue-in-cheek creation to address this.
You're saying he *didn't* save us from the Martians? That it was all some tawdry Hollywood trick?
Posted by: BillT at September 4, 2008 03:52 PM
Next he'll be trying to convince us that the circular bed in the Kennedy Room (Mars Attacks)was nothing more than a Hollywood fabrication too.
Posted by: bt_bitter&clingy_hun at September 4, 2008 03:56 PM
Against my better judgment, I'm gonna supply you with this link so that you might satisfy your Slim Whitman -Indian Love Call, aka Smite the Martians, jones.
[Going to check Dante's Inferno pocket reference to see if this moves me up or down a level]
Posted by: bt_unplugging-his-speakers_hun at September 4, 2008 04:12 PM
Stop surfing You-Toob and get moving to the "Palin's Speech" thread -- we've got a major swooning epidemic on our hands...
Posted by: BillT at September 4, 2008 05:35 PM
Thanks, Bthun! When my son was still a kid, he would beg me to put on "Indian Love Call", then put his hands on both sides of his head and run around the house going "ack, ack, ack" and make explosion sounds like the brain-exploding martians in "Mars Attacks". It cracks me up still thinking about it today.:)
Posted by: a former european at September 4, 2008 08:20 PM
"Stop surfing You-Toob and get moving to the "Palin's Speech" thread -- we've got a major swooning epidemic on our hands... "Yikes! Sorry I was AWOL on this Bill! TINS: Walkin' Boss and I had to go pick up the little vehicle we had in the body/paint shop yesterday evening. Metro Atlanta traffic pulls some serious vacuum during evening rush hour... No, make that always.
I hope the swooning ladies are ok... I trust that you were able to take command of the situation, bringing aid and comfort to those in need.
Wait... That ringing... Did an Angel just get their wings? Oops! Nope, sounds more like the paddy-wagon... Later!=8^}
Oh yeah, happy to be of service AFE.
Posted by: bt_bitter&clingy_hun at September 5, 2008 08:58 AM