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November 17, 2008

Browser Woes

I just got rid of Firefox.

I've used it for ages, but this weekend was the last straw. After one of those special "automagic updates", I could no longer get it to launch. That's not impressive.

But even before that it was freezing up all the time and crashing (several times helpfully losing several hours of work - often entire posts - in the process) and on that right brain/left brain quiz I did a few days ago it wasn't compiling the scores correctly. I took the quiz in Firefox and came out 18 left brain, which I knew was incorrect because several of my answers were clearly right brain answers.

I re-took it in IE and came out 9 right/9 left, dominant left brain. It's just not worth the trouble when you have to go out of your way to make an application work.

Posted by Cassandra at November 17, 2008 09:38 PM

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While I wouldn't wish browser trouble on anyone, it is reassuring to hear that I am not the only one wondering what has happened to Firefox. What's with these software issues all of a sudden? Like you, I just don't have the time to screw around with problems of this sort. Aggravating!!

Posted by: Bob at November 17, 2008 10:57 PM

And here I thought Firefox was supposed to be better and was only acting squirrelly for me...

Posted by: Miss Ladybug at November 17, 2008 11:10 PM

Firefox got the boot here about a year ago, and I've given Chrome a good 3-month try and it may be about to go the same way... except it does load faster than IE.

Posted by: Donna B. at November 17, 2008 11:25 PM

It may be your providers. I started using Firefox with dialup and it was worlds faster and had fewer lockups than IE.

Over here, three of us in the office use Firefox and seven use IE -- we all get lockups at exactly the same time, but I get timed out more often using Firefox.

Posted by: BillT at November 17, 2008 11:35 PM

Gee...Firefox on my computer (running OS X 10.5.5) has absolutely no problems. Maybe it's the operating system and not the application...

Posted by: HomefrontSix at November 18, 2008 01:07 AM

KtLW's running Firefox on the brand-new Dell at home -- FiOS just installed and she likes it so much, she says it might even make becoming computer-literate fun. If she discovers VC, I'm screwed -- she'll think I'm commenting at a pr0n site.

But, then, she thinks that everything other than FoodTV is a pr0n site...

Posted by: BillT at November 18, 2008 01:36 AM

I've been having problems with Firefox lately, too. Lots of restarts to get anything done, even trying to open a JPEG sometimes kills it...

Posted by: camojack at November 18, 2008 03:46 AM

I use Mo[z]illa.

Well, if you know software de[v]elopment, you know NEVER to install an update unless you "really" need it. Like when they started making it mandatory that you needed "IE 6.0 some cr[a]p or other", then I will download and install it. Otherwise, I bl[o]ck the updates.

Hell, if I had kept that policy up on my V[i]sta OS, it wouldn't have blue screened on me after an update. I had done the cautious policy on my XP, but all those damn Micr[o]soft ad[v]ertisements about "security updates" and crack like that finally wore me down. I was so fed up with manually do[w]nloading and installing that I just opted for automatic when V[i]sta came out.

Posted by: Ymarsakar at November 18, 2008 06:29 AM


trying to see which word Cass's filters are acting up on.

Posted by: Ymarsakar at November 18, 2008 06:30 AM

I haven't updated my Mozilla since a year ago. And it has provided me no problems. Why? Cause I go with the stable build. The stuff that works. The stuff the software guys just didn't turn out yesterday.

Posted by: Ymarsakar at November 18, 2008 06:32 AM

Vista was created by Beelzebub Gates just to see if we'd come up with more imaginative imprecations...

Posted by: BillT at November 18, 2008 08:58 AM

immm wusin^g$ FXlFLOX r..ghtt now ahhhnd aam no*t #aving an8&^y prpblems@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@.

Posted by: spld roooodr at November 18, 2008 10:08 AM

mstr rdr....


[shaking head]

Posted by: Sister Mary Ita at November 18, 2008 10:26 AM

trying to see which word Cass's filters are acting up on.

It doesn't like "Ewww" with more than four doubleyous, and it gets really snippy if you use the homonym of the Norwegian word for and don't even think of mentioning scatological references sich as , , , , , and .

And hypnenated compounds like - drive it up the wall.

Did any of that help?

Posted by: BillT at November 18, 2008 10:44 AM

Hmmpf. It might have, if her filters hadn't clogged on that last hyphenated compound.

Posted by: BillT at November 18, 2008 10:46 AM

As a web programmer, I must tell you, I still like FireFox a hell of a lot better than IE. It's more forgiving and gives more meaningful debugging codes. But like Ymar, I only use old, stable builds. I'm currently on, and it works like a dream.

But then again, I'm one of those guys who upgrades when he has to, not when new releases come out.

Posted by: MikeD at November 18, 2008 11:45 AM

Come to the dark side. We have cookies.

Posted by: HomefrontSix at November 18, 2008 12:21 PM

FF users you have to clear the cache every once in awhile and not in the event of a blue moon. That and go to tools and then add-ons and download these two add-ons.Adblock plus and Flashblock. Then keep them up to date.Sorry wrong word. These two add-ons are called extensions.

Posted by: Mike at November 18, 2008 01:31 PM

I do think that that Left-brain/Right-brain quiz was set up to default dominant left, though. I swear I was equally balanced. I don't know if dominant left is "truth" in cases where people appear to be balanced. Unless that's the case, I don't understand how they can declare "dominant left" to someone who answers 9 and 9 like you and I did. Yeah, I got that same result.

Posted by: Leofwende at November 18, 2008 02:02 PM

I use Firefox 3.0.4, no major issues ... could indeed be operating system / Firefox version conflicts. Most developers test and debug changes on the most current operating systems ... so what may work well perfectly in the current version of Firefox on Vista may not work with Windows 2000.

The interaction of software/ software versions / hardware makes diagnosing computer issues tricky. A couple months back my computer keep freezing up and I thought hard drive was about to crash. Then I replaced the cable modem and my issues immediately disappeared.

Posted by: Frodo at November 18, 2008 02:06 PM

We had a glitch with every single PowerPoint show from the home office -- the text appeared cut in half horizontally when we opened the files, and printed that way on our office wireless printer. I jiggered with the formatting and found that replacing the fonts with Arial Rounded Bold did the trick, but doing that for each textbox on 2500 slides? Ecch.

Our boss found the solution by accident -- all our print settings were defaulted to our office wireless printer. He defaulted his laptop to an HP inkjet and the slides magically opened normally.

We all switched our primary printers to various inkjets and laserjets.


Our IT geek said it was impossible -- no way.

Then he changed his default printer.


Posted by: BillT at November 18, 2008 02:22 PM

I'm on XP.

But if the questions aren't equally weighted (and looking at them, they shouldn't be) I can see how the test would come out dominant right/left.

Posted by: Cassandra at November 18, 2008 02:26 PM

Screw Firefaux.
I'm so hip I'm crashing on your lap, dude.

Posted by: Vinnie Vista at November 18, 2008 02:51 PM

Vista is of the Devil. No Vista here.

I have version 3.0.1. It wouldn't surprise me if the glitch were something simple. What about Opera? Not an option?

Posted by: HomefrontSix at November 18, 2008 04:20 PM

I'm on XP.

What dosage?

Posted by: BillT at November 18, 2008 04:20 PM

Take two.
Follow up with a good soaking in his and her bathtubs overlooking the beach with an aging actress that you wished looked more like your wife.

Not to nitpick, but so long as I have to suffer through 10000000000 of these &**(^%$$ miracle "hard asset" commercials every football game, would somebody please explain why these "lovers" are sitting in separate bathtubs?

I mean, don't these folks have showers?

Posted by: dr spd rdr at November 18, 2008 05:40 PM

Maybe after he takes the pill, there is no room in his tub for anything else?

Maybe the wife is terrified.

Also, have you ever tried making love in a tub that size? Kind of hard on the knees :p

I am starting to feel sorry for men during sporting events. You all really are bombarded with Viagra and Cialis and Levitra ads. It is not exactly mood enhancing.

I used to feel sorry for women - we were always being accosted by embarrassing personal hygiene ads. Now it's pills for men and male enhancement products. I am glad I don't watch cable much. The other day we were looking for a movie and while flipping through the selections (I was watching him when it happened) my husband's finger slipped and all of sudden we're in an entirely different "pay per view" and "Chocolate MILF" pops up on the screen.

I do not understand cable at all. Of course, you know that I had to hit him :p

The poor man. I am still laughing about it.

Posted by: Inquiring minds don't really want to know... at November 18, 2008 06:02 PM

I'm so hip I'm crashing on your lap, dude.

Hey Man, if there's anything around here more hip than me, I want it hunted down and shot.

Posted by: Zaphod Beeblebrox at November 18, 2008 06:07 PM

I'm so hip I'm crashing on your lap, dude.

Hey Man, if there's anything around here more hip than me, I want it hunted down and shot.

Make my shot cortisone!

Posted by: old slow rdr at November 18, 2008 06:37 PM

Chocolate Milf on pay per view?

I prefer Yoo-Hoo.

Posted by: Pile On at November 18, 2008 07:01 PM

Well, as I said, I did not even know that we got that sort of thing on cable :p

I guess you learn something new every day. Fun with technology!

Posted by: Cassandra at November 18, 2008 07:39 PM

"Fun with technology!"

Soooo, does that mean you got the new LED disco ball in?

Posted by: Snarkammando at November 18, 2008 10:06 PM

In that sense, I am strictly low tech, smart aleck :p

And probably pretty boring too. Let's keep in mind that not too long ago I had to Google MILF because I didn't even know what it stood for. In some ways I prefer to keep my innocence.

Posted by: Cassandra at November 18, 2008 10:21 PM

Fun with technology!

Soooo, does that mean you got the new LED disco ball in?

Heh. That's SOOOO not how I took it.

I had to Google MILF because I didn't even know what it stood for. In some ways I prefer to keep my innocence.

I'm sure that, after perusing the results of THAT search, you didn't have much left in the way of innocence.

Posted by: HomefrontSix at November 19, 2008 02:54 AM

MILFs are dangerous creatures, prone to unexplainable bouts of violence, completely irrational creatures and impervious to any attempts to reason with them. Worse; once you get in you cannot get out without risking life and limb, and you cannot give an inch for in all verity, they will take a league.

What? I'm from South East Asia! I'm entitled to be a tad upset at the Moro Islamic Liberation Front!


Vista 32-bit, SP1+, IE7, Opera 9.52 (or 9.53, I forget which), Firefox 3.0.4

I use Opera extensively; Firefox only for sites I want to TOR my way to; IE7 for Hotmail and as my default link handler.

IE7 is solid as a rock - as long as you do not install the Windows Live toolbar. Opera is solid as a rock also. Firefox... could be better. My preference is for Opera.

Vista is unfairly maligned. I've got uptimes of months - and that's running P2P, games, install/uninstall of all manner of software, w/o firewall or anti-malware of any sort besides Defender.

I finally broke down and installed Avast, but had no virii detected then or since.

Posted by: Gregory at November 19, 2008 04:19 AM