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February 17, 2009

Speak up!!!

It's no secret..no secret indeed that the Blog Princess and I are not happy at all with the possibility of the media ban at Dover being lifted. While it seems bizarre that President Obama might, in fact, do just that, I am worst case scenario girl and I do like to leave little to chance.

The NY Times Sunday edition encouraged President Obama to lift the ban. And then they reviewed "Taking Chance". Mrs. G. wades through the crap found there so you don't have to.

A little reminder from last year of what media will do with graphic pictures. Imagine what they'll do if they can even get close to families meeting planes at Dover. Imagine what they could do if the family can't come. Imagine the misery they can cause just because they want to sell a newspaper or push their agenda. I don't want to.
It makes me sick to think about it.

In the extended entry, you'll find contact information for the Service Chiefs, Secretary Gates, and others who could be or are in the decision making process. If you are in any way connected with the military or just give a damn, call one of these folks and tell them what you think. As always, the official VC policy is "be civil" but I don't need to remind you guys of that.

Two little palate cleansers from a reporter at Newsweek and Hooah Wife.

As always, many thanks to Mrs. G for Dawn Patrol and Mudville Gazette.


Pentagon Switchboard
703-545-6700
SCTY Defense Robert Gates:
Dr. Robert M. Gates
Secretary of Defense
1000 Defense Pentagon
Washington, DC 20301-1000

Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Mike Mullen:
Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
9999 Joint Staff Pentagon
Washington, DC 20318-9999

General James E. Cartwright:
Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
9999 Joint Staff Pentagon
Washington, DC 20318-9999

General George W. Casey, Jr.:
Army Chief of Staff
200 Army Pentagon
Washington, DC 20310-0200

Admiral Gary Roughead:
Chief of Naval Operations
2000 Navy Pentagon
Washington, DC 20350-2000

General Norton A. Schwartz:
Air Force Chief of Staff
1670 Air Force Pentagon
Washington, DC 20330-1670

General James T. Conway:
Commandant of the Marine Corps
Headquarters USMC
2 Navy Annex (CMC)
Washington, DC 20380-1775

Senator John Kerry:
http://kerry.senate.gov/contact/email.cfm

218 Russell Bldg.
Second Floor
Washington D.C. 20510
202-224-2742 - Phone
202-224-8525 - Fax

Boston
One Bowdoin Square
Tenth Floor
Boston, MA 02114
617-565-8519 - Phone
617-248-3870 - Fax

Springfield
Springfield Federal Building
1550 Main Street
Suite 304
Springfield, MA 01101
413-785-4610 - Phone
413-736-1049 - Fax

Fall River
222 Milliken Place
Suite 312
Fall River, Ma 02721
508-677-0522 - Phone
508-677-0275 - Fax

Senator Frank R. Lautenberg:
http://lautenberg.senate.gov/contact/index1.cfm

Newark Office
One Gateway Center
Twenty-Third Floor
Newark, NJ 07102
Phone: 973-639-8700
Toll Free: 1-888-398-1642
Fax: 973-639-8723

Camden Office
One Port Center
Suite 505, Fifth Floor
2 Riverside Drive
Camden, NJ 08101
Phone: 856-338-8922
Fax: 856-338-8936

Washington, DC
Hart Senate Office Building
Suite 324
Washington, DC 20510
Phone: 202-224-3224
TTY: 202-224-2087
Fax: 202-228-4054

The White House
http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/

The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500

Phone Numbers
Comments: 202-456-1111
Switchboard: 202-456-1414
FAX: 202-456-2461

TTY/TDD
Comments: 202-456-6213
Visitors Office: 202-456-2121
Find your Senator / Congressman
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/findyourreps.xpd

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Whoops!! What I totally forgot to do was give CWCID to Chuck Z's Code Monkey for compiling the contact info.
My bad and thanks as well.

Posted by: Carrie at February 17, 2009 04:26 PM

Agreed.
Disgrace in this case and on every single front until he is OUT.
Excellent blog, by the way.

Posted by: alvah halle at February 17, 2009 05:03 PM

What is going on at Dover is not a secret; it is sacred.

Very different from a photo op.

Posted by: Cricket at February 17, 2009 06:01 PM

Posted by: bthun at February 17, 2009 06:32 PM

My disenchantment with main stream media began in October of 1983. I had always taken them with a grain of salt, but on October 23 the Marine barracks in Beirut was bombed. In the days following there was the usual reaction from the media, but one night on the evening news a vulture of the media filmed a young lady being informed that her husband, or perhaps boyfriend was one of the killed. My heart still aches for her - as I recall she said words to the effect of "I never got to have his baby..." as she ran into her house. I can understand how something like that could be filmed. I can't understand how someone in the media decided it was appropriate to put that on national TV. Vermin.

Posted by: Pogue at February 17, 2009 06:52 PM

From the Philadelphia Inquirer:

If a family objects, arrangements should be made to accommodate its wishes. But photographs should be allowed in other cases, because the public should be able to see the cost of war. Without the visible proof, casualty reports don't reflect the true sacrifice.

*That* is their agenda.

All the sanctimonious handwringing about "giving more honor to the troops" is a lie.

Posted by: BillT at February 18, 2009 01:37 AM

"If a family objects, arrangements should be made to accommodate its wishes. But photographs should be allowed in other cases, because the public should be able to see the cost of war. Without the visible proof, casualty reports don't reflect the true sacrifice."
No arrogance in the underlying premise of that statement eh?

I wonder if my BS decoder ring is still functioning... Let's fire it up and feed the statement through the cypher to see what comes out. Click, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.... Ah ha! Here it comes.

<Unfiltered BS output>If the peasantry petition the royal We with pleas for privacy, and the royal We are of a mind to grant accommodation, the petitioners shall have their moment. Unless of course a foul mood were to overtake Us. But, as Our position allows Us great latitude to dictate and direct the mores for the unwashed who would, by the way, have no understanding of the cost of conflict were it not made visible on their computers, their TV's, in their theaters, or on their PlayStation/gameboys. We can not, nay, will not allow anything as antiquated as respect for the fallen or their loved ones turn Us away from Our objectives. Nor will We allow a modicum of human decency, should We still have one iota of that character flaw, obstruct Us from Our invasive, self-serving, ghoulish tasks. After all, without creating an atmosphere similar to a c-grade slasher movie, how could the unwashed possible understand?</Unfiltered BS output>

Posted by: bthun at February 18, 2009 08:08 AM

I'm speaking up.

As much as I'd like to take full credit for the link you gave me, it is Greyhawk wearing the wading boots, on this one. I just helped find and gather the $#*t for him to wade thru. ;P

Posted by: Mrs G at February 18, 2009 02:35 PM

I'd have a little more appreciation for the MSM's holy doctrine of the Public's Right to Know, if only they just let us know a little more of the victories and accomplishments we've racked up over there, and maybe even a few "human interest" stories of soldiers' courage and effectiveness in combat, and their dedication and determination in rebuilding schools, hospitals and homes.

It would make them sound just a little less hypocritical.

bthun There's an interview with one of Viet Nam's top generals, where he says straight out that they were beaten and ready to surrender, but they saw the effect the media and the protestors were having here, so they stuck it out just a little longer.

Posted by: ZZMike at February 18, 2009 07:42 PM

"There's an interview with one of Viet Nam's top generals, where he says straight out that they were beaten and ready to surrender,"
I'm somewhat familiar with the alleged remarks by General Nguyen Giap which are still in dispute. Continue reading through the page and you will hit this section in which there is conjecture on the origins of the rumored remarks;
"It's possible that the apparently apocryphal General Giap statement is based upon a misattribution of somewhat similar sentiments expressed by other political or military figures involved in the Vietnam War. For example, in 1995 the Wall Street Journal published an interview with Bui Tin, a former colonel who served on the general staff of the North Vietnamese army, that included the following exchange:"
In any event, the world's media and more's the shame, our own media, fought a propaganda war against the successful prosecution of the fight in Vietnam.

And IMHO, if there ever was a pooch screwer, it would be LBJ who screwed said pooch with his half-arsed firepower and attrition to wear down the enemy approach for fear of antagonizing the communist block. May he and his best and brightest burn in the lowest, hottest, rings of hell for all eternity.

Other than that, I don't have much to say on the matter...

Posted by: bthun at February 18, 2009 08:33 PM

My disenchantment with main stream media began in October of 1983. I had always taken them with a grain of salt, but on October 23 the Marine barracks in Beirut was bombed. In the days following there was the usual reaction from the media, but one night on the evening news a vulture of the media filmed a young lady being informed that her husband, or perhaps boyfriend was one of the killed. My heart still aches for her - as I recall she said words to the effect of "I never got to have his baby..." as she ran into her house. I can understand how something like that could be filmed. I can't understand how someone in the media decided it was appropriate to put that on national TV. Vermin.

Posted by: mwoodunob at November 6, 2012 10:11 AM

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