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March 05, 2009

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Why do they like danger so much?

Posted by Cassandra at March 5, 2009 12:34 PM

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So we don't have to worry about liking mint chocolate-chip?

Posted by: BillT at March 5, 2009 12:54 PM

Because if we didn't, nobody would have landed on the Moon.

Posted by: John "Danger" Donovan at March 5, 2009 01:04 PM

Hinting that Cassie might be goaded into trying for her own Moon Shot?

I mean, aside from the one you

*ducking head-seeking trivet*

uhhhhhhh -- never mind.

Posted by: BillT at March 5, 2009 01:18 PM

Easy answer: Because men are results-oriented, impervious to physical pain, and oblivious to their own peril and, generally, also about everything else. For men, it's all about the wager: Me against the world. For a Man it's either Win! Die! Or take out the garbage....

And that is why women so like men who court danger. Somebody has to take out the garbage.

Posted by: spd rdr at March 5, 2009 01:48 PM

I note that none of my fellow Men have rushed to undergird the limb upon which I have placed myself, and to which I have so heroically applied the Gender Saw of Doom.

Thanks, guys. I'll take this one for the the troops. But you fricken' owe me one.

Posted by: spd rdr at March 5, 2009 02:50 PM

Dude - you just took more words to say what I said.

Well, and added the garbage part. I didn't add that because, well, SWWBO runs the garbage out over at the Castle.

Posted by: John "Danger is my cognomen" Donovan at March 5, 2009 02:56 PM

But you fricken' owe me one.

Whaaaat? And here I was gonna make popcorn for when Cassie showed up for Act II, Scene 3...

Posted by: BillT at March 5, 2009 03:07 PM

Popcorn on vanilla icing!?

My contract does not include popcorn on the icing!!!

*commences deep breathing and focusing exercises*
Great, now I've lost the character.....
Make-up!
Wardrobe!

Posted by: DL Sly at March 5, 2009 03:18 PM

Speaking of characters, I believe you mentioned a certain photograph -- ?

Posted by: BillT at March 5, 2009 03:34 PM

HF6, you're on.

Oooooh -- wait! I. Have. A. VISION!

Ixnay on the anillavay. I see --

clarified butter!

Posted by: BillT at March 5, 2009 03:37 PM

Dude - you just took more words to say what I said.

And that, my son, is the very essence of manly danger, at least for an attorney.
:-)

Posted by: spd rdr at March 5, 2009 03:53 PM

because the hero gets the girl..

and the loser doesnt have to live with the status he gets from losing.

all or nothing makes winners out of losers if everyone isnt competing all or nothing.

:)

Posted by: artfldgr at March 5, 2009 04:19 PM

and if everyone is competing all or nothing, then the winners are the best standing..


we are decended from the crazy all or nothings that won over the others..

if the others were more successful, we would wonder why men are so safety oriented.

[it also has to do with the different goals presented by the investments in procreation, and whether your talking short term or long term preferences and goals]


this is the force that created society and all we have.

or as a famous feminist once said.

if it was up to women, we would still be living in grass huts.

and the reason the young are more crazy to kill themselves than the old is that the young have the largest group of potential mates.

and even if the winner isnt the best man but the luckiest, he gets the prizes.

its all through our culture... despite feminism.

you dont see women selecting men and supporting them becquse they love em, do you?

after all tey earn now, and they could jsut select for love and share their earnigns for the company of a man they like. right?

but they dont...

you see a gorgeous girl and a fat ugly guy going at it. do you think, wow what a mind he must have (there are brain groupies though).

the earlier he can distinguish himself, the more likely he will ahve a large pick of potential mates.

its the captain of the footbal team that gets hookup calls. the captain of the chess team doesnt...

oh.. and the things that demonstrate the ability to use deadly force top the list.

so a brute, a thug, a man in uniform, a cop, and so forth... get lots more girls than the others.

lets hear from thelma watson :)

in music..
www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTXhhkgwcJ0

from popular art.
images2.ggl.com/articles/5700/frazetta.jpg


and even darker with things like the white feather... which shamed men to fight and be winners.

or the "come home with your shields or on them"


Posted by: artfldgr at March 5, 2009 04:32 PM

the movie buster keatons "college" also plays with the theme... he is the smart guy, and he competes with the jerk jock for the girl. and the jock wins till he shows himself as an ass..but few think of what would have happend if the jock was not an ass.

a key point to the comedy is that keaton was more athletic than the atheletes...

[and some of the most incredible site gags happen in his films. in this one, if you can slow it down, watch when he comes out of the kitchen with a cup of coffee and falls. its real not faked. though if you are offended by one of the funniest black face things, i would suggest you dont watch. its not racist, but today everyone is overly sensitive. (in fact he puts on black face to get a job)]

Posted by: artfldgr at March 5, 2009 04:36 PM

Not bad, Cassie. Put up something to fling sand in my eye (and continue the round-robin exposure for the cookbook) and you get a dissection of evolutionary pressures on human interactions with a feminist critique, with a frisson of motion picture criticism tossed in to season lightly.

Snerk. You have one of the best comment sections on the web.

Posted by: John "Danger is my cognomen" Donovan at March 5, 2009 05:05 PM

Safe is sooooo boring...

Posted by: Pogue at March 5, 2009 05:07 PM

Men don't like danger so much. They like to win.

And the distribution is normal. A few value winning about all else and they will risk everything to win.

Most want to win enough to be comfortable and will take fewer risks as they prosper.

And a few simply won't compete at all and don't understand why we can't all get along.

Oddly enough it is the last group which dreams of a universal government able to impose the tyranny of political correctness. That would relieve the person of any responsibility to direct their own lives.

Or, to put it another way, they have a body but no operator's manual.

And in a mad reversal of logic they see society as the "Magic Hand" which can and should direct individuals in every activity.

Posted by: K at March 5, 2009 05:11 PM

Great. Back to sex and relationships.

Again.

I'm gonna go out and kill something...

Posted by: BillT at March 5, 2009 05:48 PM

*rolling eyes*

You'll note I had nothing to do with that one...

Want some ice cream?

Posted by: Cass's Derriere at March 5, 2009 05:59 PM

Put the ice cream on an iron-spike-studded mace, submissive female, and stand back while I subject the same to the chocolate sprinkles of my awesome and unrestrained manly fury.

(Note to self: Recyclables out to the curb tomorrow by 8 a.m.)

Now where was I?

Posted by: spd rdr at March 5, 2009 06:09 PM

Now where was I?

Given that 'submissive female' remark, ny guess would be "watching your life flash before your eyes"... :p

Posted by: Cassandra at March 5, 2009 06:20 PM

Ummmmm, so, uhhhh, how's the caption contest going?

Posted by: BillT at March 5, 2009 06:22 PM

“You cannot be disciplined in great things and indiscipline in small things. Brave undisciplined men have no chance against the discipline and valour of other men. Have you ever seen a few policemen handle a crowd?”

- May 1941,
in an address to officers and men of the Second Armored Division.

Posted by: Drive-by General George S. Patton at March 5, 2009 06:40 PM

Bill ~ How in the helk did I get pulled in to this one? I haven't been near the computer all stinking day!


Why do men like danger so much? Because adrenaline is addictive.

Yes, it is. Think I"ll go jump that rock again. Obviously men aren't the only ones that like it.

Posted by: Sly's Wardrobe Mistress at March 5, 2009 09:14 PM

You guys really crack me up. I can't add anything because I am too busy laughing.

Posted by: Russ at March 5, 2009 09:14 PM

HF6 -- your position as Wardrobe Mistress to the Main Attraction in the Hannibal Crosses the Alps diorama remains secure, despite your propensity to wander off aimlessly to attend to Real Life.

Now we've gotta work on the mechanics of applying clarified butter ILO vanilla icing without the concomitant second-degree burns.

Or maybe we'll just use cargo straps and a gag...

Posted by: BillT at March 6, 2009 07:36 AM

"Or maybe we'll just use cargo straps and a gag..."
*applies Peabody Labs Defibrillator, UL® Appalled, to self in order to derail that train of thought before it leaves the station*

Midterm election countdown: 605 day and a wake up.

Posted by: bthun at March 6, 2009 08:14 AM

Why do they like danger so much?

*applies Peabody Labs Defibrillator, UL® Appalled, to self in order to derail that train of thought before it leaves the station*

*Not* helping, there, bthun...

Posted by: BillT at March 6, 2009 08:58 AM

*Or maybe we'll just use cargo straps and a gag...*


Damn, I like the way you think...

Posted by: Sly's Wardrobe Mistress at March 6, 2009 12:15 PM

Danger is our business. LOL.

Plus the womenfolk (or wymynfolk) have come to expect the same.

And I did not think the GMs were overly ample. Appropriately sized, I think. ;^p

Posted by: CW4 at March 6, 2009 03:38 PM

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Cass, you need to be grateful men like danger:

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There are two things a real man likes - danger & play; and he likes woman because she is the most dangerous of playthings.
- Neitszche -
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;-D

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Posted by: Obloodyhell at March 6, 2009 03:53 PM

> My contract does not include popcorn on the icing!!!

Iced popcorn?

No thanks, I'll stick with the Raisinettes®.

.

Posted by: Obloodyhell at March 6, 2009 03:59 PM

There are two things a real man likes - danger & play; and he likes woman because she is the most dangerous of playthings.

This is why I like men. They keep you guessing!

And thanks, CW4... I *think* :p

Posted by: Cassandra at March 6, 2009 04:21 PM

This is why I like men. They keep you guessing!

Odd. That's the reason KtLW uses when she gets exasperated with me.

Okay, *one* of the mnay reasons.

Posted by: BillT at March 6, 2009 04:31 PM

If you want to explore the question, Cass, you might start with another one: why is the world so dangerous? There are several metaphysical approaches to that question, and each one will make sense of why men are adapted to like danger. To sketch two:

1) God made the world dangerous because the purpose of life is to test the soul, and the souls of men He designed to be forged in these ways.

Why? Perhaps for some purpose that we aren't meant to know, as the Book of Job hints; or perhaps for some greater conflict beyond the walls of the world we know. This could be the secret war of demons and angels, of which Christian literature hints much but says little; or the war of the gods against the forces of chaos, as Norse literature suggests ("The grey wolf watches the abode of the gods"); or because the real point of life is for people to have the experience so that God can know it in all its forms, much as you attend a play (this is a brief sketch of the Hindu position).

2) The world is dangerous because it arose by accident, and the life that has managed to survive has done so through a combination of random chance and brutal competition. Therefore, men like danger because the adaptation is strictly necessary to survival.

Women, by contrast, then don't like danger because it is adaptive for them to encourage the men to build them stronger nests.

Posted by: Grim at March 7, 2009 05:58 AM

Women, by contrast, then don't like danger because it is adaptive for them to encourage the men to build them stronger nests.

Or because avoiding risk increases the chances of survival when you're encumbered with small children?

Having helpless children in tow changes your entire risk calculation in life, and on average this is more the case with women (especially stay at home Moms) than men. If you don't have any kids, you can at least run from a potential threat.

With little ones, you can move fast to avoid risk and if you had to fight back, children are a vulnerability too.

I know I was a lot more careful when my children were small. Interesting thoughts, Grim - I hadn't seriously considered the question.

Posted by: Cassandra at March 7, 2009 09:24 AM

Ms. Cassandra,

You are most welcome for the minor compliment. Just keep it under control! ;^p

CW4

Posted by: CW4 at March 7, 2009 10:59 AM

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