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September 30, 2009

No Shame

Matthew Yglesias really has no shame whatsoever:

Congress could have voted itself higher salaries. Or better travel benefits. Or larger appropriations so the congressional cafeterias can serve better food. But or just more generous health insurance. But what they wanted here was socialized medicine—health care that’s not only financed by the state but directly provided by government employees. This kind of state-provided health care is basically universal in the UK, it accounts for an important chunk of the health care in Sweden, and it’s what we give to our veterans in the United States. But most members of congress claim regard it as a horrifying prospect. And yet in practice they appear to like it just fine.

As the Reality Based Community LOVE to remind us, we are all entitled to our own opinions but we are not entitled to our own facts. The health insurance enjoyed by Congress is NOTHING like that provided to veterans - nor, indeed, does it even vaguely resemble either bill currently before the House or Senate, let alone the universal health care offered in the U.K. But aside from those "minor" details, Yglesias is... still full of it. Congress gets:

* a choice of 10 healthcare plans that provide access to a national network of doctors

* as well as several HMOs that serve each member's home state.

* Lawmakers also get special treatment at Washington's federal medical facilities

* and, for a few hundred dollars a month, access to their own pharmacy and doctors, nurses and medical technicians standing by in an office conveniently located between the House and Senate chambers.

If socialized medicine health care reform is so attractive, Mr. Yglesias, shouldn't you be able to sell it honestly?

Well, perhaps not.

Posted by Cassandra at September 30, 2009 07:25 PM

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I really hope we can kill this thing, dead. And I say this as an underemployed uninsured person who would supposedly "benefit" from the current legislation (but not until 2013, and if I'm still underemployed and uninsured by then, I've probably got more problems than these...

Posted by: Miss Ladybug at September 30, 2009 07:46 PM

I really hope we can kill this thing, dead.

RAAAAACIST!!!! Violent rhetorer!

Why do you hate Obama????

Ummm... err... oh. You meant health care reform.

RAAAAACIST!!!! Violent rhetorer!

Why do you hate Obama????

Posted by: Cassandra at September 30, 2009 08:39 PM

LOL

Maybe it's an outlet for the anger I felt today dealing about some very unacceptable behavior from some second graders. Had a handful that copped ALL KINDS of attitude today. I can't throttle them, so it's gotta come out somewhere. Of course, that doesn't explain this attitude from me on the days I don't have a trying day substitute teaching... Maybe I am an in-denial racist, violent rhetorer after all?

Posted by: Miss Ladybug at September 30, 2009 08:58 PM

One of the Republicans in Congrefs proposed an amendment that would have required Members to be covered by the Public Option plan if they approve it for private citizens.

"Predictably, however, the Heller amendment was defeated, with all 21 committee Democrats voting against it. That vote is indicative of the reality that any bill requiring Congress to be covered by the same health care as the public has the proverbial snow ball in Hades' chances of being enacted."

No takers. No surprise...

Posted by: camojack at October 1, 2009 01:31 AM

No takers, indeed. If the Congers had to use the VA, they'd have long-since resurrected Torquemada an held endless hearings to get to the bottom of the mess.

Matthew Yglesias is a fool to pontificate on something he knows nothing about.

Ummmmmm -- that may be redundant...

Posted by: BillT at October 1, 2009 04:56 AM

Congress could have voted itself higher salaries. Or better travel benefits. Or larger appropriations so the congressional cafeterias can serve better food. But or just more generous health insurance.

That's just "business as usual" -- they do *those* on a regular basis, boyo.

Posted by: BillT at October 1, 2009 06:39 AM

Cassandra is just trickling down on the little people. We all know socialized...uh, universal health care is the next best thing to Obama, which is why HE was called/anointed/Chosen to push it. No one else had the correct spin!

I love how liberals tend to lump statements together; if Bush said that we are against terrorists and those who support them, then that means Bush hates Muslims.

If Obama says universal healthcare is a good thing, and you are against it, you hate Obama.

Nice and tidy. No distinctions because we are not allowed to be discriminating, doncha know.

Posted by: Cricket at October 1, 2009 09:59 AM

*Uh oh... the Hun feels the electrical charge forming in the ionosphere as another Vile Rhetorer issues forth from the David Saruman Axelrod/Rham Grima Wormtongue Emanuel's Smiting Opposition Via Inference & Effluence Tactics , aka SOVIET methods*

Meanwhile, smooth operator seeks to enhance the plight of the poor Urban Renewalists by way of a quick trip to Denmark... Particularly since there are no pressing national issues outstanding, all in order to deliver a personal air start --a naval aviation term-- to IOC members.

Hey taxpayers! BOHICA!

Posted by: bt_hang-em-high_hun at October 1, 2009 10:26 AM

I hope he is served lutefisk gravy over dried potatoes.

Or lots of ham. Denmark has some truly stellar pork products.

Some fried ham along with his morning aebleskiver...heh.

Posted by: Cricket at October 1, 2009 01:57 PM

*snerk*

Totally forgot about Danish food.

If he makes it through breakfast and lunch without insulting his hosts, he'll be going into cholesterol-overload shock right around suppertime...

Posted by: BillT at October 1, 2009 02:08 PM

Posted by: hmr rdr at October 1, 2009 02:58 PM

They sell butter cookies in a pharmacy?

That's like selling Midol in a bakery...

Posted by: BillT at October 1, 2009 03:50 PM

That's like selling Midol in a bakery...

Posted by: BillT at October 1, 2009 03:50 PM

We missed our drop zone by about 20 miles, ended up way over by Bumville or some damn place.

Posted by: Drive-by Pvt Mandleson at October 1, 2009 04:41 PM

Those butter cookies are stale. If you want something that is fresh and better, I have recipes. I start about this time of year and finish up before December 15. We do cookies, fruitcake (no DayGlo cherries or weird stuff),
cheesecake, and cakes.

Isn't that what freezers are for?

Posted by: Cricket at October 2, 2009 08:20 AM

I took a pan of brownies and a bunch of cookies out to Patti's last night to share with everyone helping out with today's (rained-on) Soldiers' Angels garage sale. While they weren't ALL eaten, I didn't bring any home. And, no, Bill, they weren't your new favorite brownie. I'm out of peanut brittle... I need to do more baking for the holidays, but we don't have an extra freezer in the house...

Posted by: Miss Ladybug at October 3, 2009 07:11 PM

While they weren't ALL eaten, I didn't bring any home.

A sure sign of a good brownie, Miss L.

Posted by: BillT at October 4, 2009 03:00 AM

How are you doing on the goodies, btw? I'm sure the brownies are long gone, but do you still have any of the peanut brittle?

Posted by: Miss Ladybug at October 4, 2009 10:55 AM

*crnch* *crnch* *crnch*

Yef...

Posted by: BillT at October 4, 2009 12:07 PM

*gulp*

Fankf for afking!

*licking fingerf*

Posted by: BillT at October 4, 2009 12:15 PM

Well, just keep me informed. I've got plenty of "raw materials' in the pantry downstairs. And let me know if you'd like some other goodies, too, since I might be able to take requests.

Posted by: Miss Ladybug at October 4, 2009 01:39 PM

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