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January 25, 2012


I've got a full day today, so I won't have anything new until probably later this evening but in the mean time the assembled villainry can weigh in on a creative plan from our Brethren in Christ to raise revenue and create jobs.

Who says the Dems don't know how to get this country back to work?

Posted by Cassandra at January 25, 2012 06:41 AM

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WOOHOO! My day just got a whole lot better! Accidentally clicked on your 'still bookmarked' site and here you are! Glad you are back.

Now I'm going to take some time and read thru your posts. Which will likely make my brain hurt . . . in a good way! ;-)

Posted by: Nina at January 25, 2012 11:51 AM

I think that selling pot in Virginia state stores is a fabulous idea, and here's why:

1. You can get your pot in the same place as you get your liquor, thus saving fuel and the environment.

2. Buying your pot and your liquor at the same time will cut down on instances where people have to first buy their liquor and then drive across town to buy their pot, or the other way around, thus saving fuel, and protecting the environment.

4. No wait, 3. Pot liquor. I just thought of it.

3 Again! Ha ha. If you can buy your pot at the same place as you buy your liquor, then you'll be less likely to have to drive somewhere else to buy your pot, thus saving fuel and protecting polar bears from global warming.

5. If they could only get their pot in liquor stores, then the web masters at the Marijuana Growers Association of America would have to spend less time having to drive around town looking for pot and would have more time to think about what comes after page one of their website. Like maybe, t-shirts? That's be awesome.

6. It'd be cool to do jello-shots with Rastafarians.

7. It'd be righteous payback for bad karma on that dude who ripped me off for $50 on that bogus lid. "Michoacan Mellow" my butt.

8. Buy pot with a credit card? How cool is that?

9. Maybe I could get a job at the liquor store selling pot, like the store "expert" or something.

10. Whoa! I just got a great idea for a t-shirt! "Virginia Pot is for Lovers." Excellent!

11. My friend knows this guy with, like 50 acres or something. We could start our own business growing pot and selling it to the government! That way we would have to drive around trying to sell it to regular people, thus saving gas and helping stop global warming.

12. "Government Roach Clip" would be a coll name for a band.

13. "13" man! "13" stands for "M", like in the alphabet! And "M" means "marijuana," so I guess that's a really cool place to stop.

Posted by: spd rdr unplugged at January 25, 2012 12:19 PM

I think the idea might work better if there was a drive through window.

Posted by: Allen at January 25, 2012 12:21 PM

Great to see you, Nina! :)

mr rdr.... [foot tapping]

They had a drive thru beer place when we were in California (Beer Barn? It's been a while). Anyway, I laughed myself silly every time I passed it.

Posted by: Sister Mary Bag O'Metaphors at January 25, 2012 01:20 PM

Hi Cass, I see you have fallen off the No-Blog wagon. I am delighted and glad to see you back.

Posted by: Mark at January 25, 2012 01:40 PM

There are drive-thru beer places all over Ohio. It's a way of life.

A great way of life. Here hold my beer while I do this.......

Posted by: Don Brouhaha at January 25, 2012 03:40 PM

I'd say that pot and liquor and t-shirts and drive-thru windows and...




Dude! Where's my memory?

*turns to pass doob*

Dude! Legally blotted on the Oblivion Express and free as a bird. Is this a great country or...



Posted by: bthun at January 25, 2012 04:10 PM

Thanks, Mark :)

It is wonderful to see you all too! I missed you guys more than you know.

Posted by: Cassandra at January 25, 2012 06:55 PM

"mr rdr.... [foot tapping]"

Ding! Ding! DingDingDing!!
And the winner is....spd rdr unplugged! 13 days to see the return of Sister Mary Bag O'Metaphors.
I'd say this calls for a celebration.
*starts digging through corner cabinet*
*cough cough*
Damn, didn't those itinerate eskimos do anything in your absence?
*pulls out empty beer and liquor bottles*
Oh, well.....guess they did do something afterall.
*sits down to write supply list.....beer, rum, n's....*
Now where did I put that number for Mr. DeBille's Dark Side Delivery?

Posted by: DL Sly at January 25, 2012 07:21 PM

I can just see the spliffs...

Posted by: Carolyn at January 26, 2012 02:06 AM

Had to comment and run yesterday . . come back to see all sorts of food for thought. Or is that pot for thought?? ;-)

Drive-thru's may be a good idea . .then again if its set up like the one in my hometown and pot was added to the menu, they'd likely go from there right across the street to the Burger King or Arby's . . . the question is - would they drive ON the streets or just cut across the curbs and small field that would get in their way?? LOL

Posted by: Nina at January 26, 2012 08:40 AM

Well, time for me to break out the controversy pants. Let's start with a little background.

1) I have not ever, and I do mean ever, smoked pot, bought it, sold it, consumed it in any food item, gotten a second hand buzz of of it, or in any way that I am aware taken THC into my body. Period. Nor do I even have any interest in doing so.

2) Yes I have known people who are pot smokers. And generally, I'd never hire them for a job. I think they're generally unmotivated and lazy. Now is this a consequence of pot use or is the pot use a good fit for the lazy and unmotivated personality? I couldn't tell you. But either way, I'd give a gimlet eye to a habitual pot smoker the same as I would to an alcoholic.

3) I recognize that cannabis is NOT some "super safe" panacea for what ails ya, nor is it a harmless recreational drug. Let's face it, at a minimum, you're inhaling burnt plants just like you do with cigarettes. Anyone who thinks that's harmless has never seen a used bong.

All that said, I don't give a rat's butt what someone else puts in their body. If they want to destroy their lives retreating into a chemical haze, that's their business (and those of the people who love them). Sure, if they get stoned and drive (not that many do, from my observation... they're too lazy to go out) bust em to the wall. But if they're sitting in their den, listening to the Dead (or whatever modern stoners listen to), they're doing me and mine no harm.

We have direct evidence that Prohibition does not work. You may dispute all you like that "without it, drug addiction would be worse." That's unprovable, but I'll not argue it as the converse is equally unprovable. Would alcohol usage be down today if Prohibition had never been repealed? Perhaps, but we'll never know, because it was repealed. What IS beyond dispute is that the crime associated with the Prohibition increased, and was given a lucrative market by Prohibition. Why are we (as a society) shocked by the fact that the Prohibition of cannabis and harder drugs provide the same market to modern criminals?

Now, as to the topic our lovely hostess provided, I think it's a stupid idea. If all you want to achieve is tax revenue, then you're being stupid. The amount of money that revenue stream would provide is ludicrously small. ESPECIALLY if the cannabis is legal. Without the criminal enterprise, the cost bottoms out of the market (see the end of Prohibition again). Now, having never bought pot, I can't tell what it costs, and any speculation as to what it would cost after theoretical legalization is purely guess work. But even with a hefty sin tax, I'm willing to bet it would still be less than it currently is (else you risk creating a completely separate criminal market of tax evasion). But either way, it still will not be a huge influx of cash for the State. The largest net revenue gain would be from releasing prisoners from jail who are incarcerated on drug use charges (and the lack of new prosecutions).

And let's not even TALK about how the Feds would still come down on such a store like a ton of bricks. Without nationalized legalization, or at the minimum a new-found adherence to the Tenth Amendment, DEA would squash or a least regulate any such store into oblivion.

Philosophically, I'm not against the idea. As a matter of practicality, it's not even slightly feasible.

Posted by: MikeD at January 26, 2012 09:12 AM

I snorted your lines.

Posted by: Carolyn at January 26, 2012 09:50 AM

Hmmm. We've got 80 acres. The stuff grows in the area as "ditchweed" anyway - left over from when it was cultivated a *lot* around here for hemp during WW's I and Redo.

I've got a nice barn to store it in, too.

Lemme know.

Posted by: John of Argghhh! at January 27, 2012 04:30 PM