June 21, 2012
Just Follow His Nose... Wherever It Grows
The Pinocchio Test
The Obama campaign fails to make its case. On just about every level, this ad is misleading, unfair and untrue, from the use of “corporate raider” to its examples of alleged outsourcing. Simply repeating the same debunked claims won’t make them any more correct.
Ouch. It would appear that someone can no longer rely on the press to function as his personal echo chamber. My favorite part:
Regarding the other claims, concerning Canadian electronics maker SMTC Manufacturing and customer service firm Modus Media, the Obama campaign tries to take advantage of a gray area in which Romney had stepped down from Bain — to manage the Salt Lake City Olympics — but had not sold his shares in the firm. We had previously given the Obama campaign Three Pinocchios for such tactics.
The Modus Media case is also not an example of shipping jobs overseas. The company closed one plant in California and transferred the jobs to North Carolina, Washington and Utah. At the same time, it opened an unrelated plant in Mexico. The Obama campaign once trumpeted the fact that we had dinged a conservative Super PAC for making the same leap in logic.
The claim that Romney outsourced jobs as governor is equally overblown.
This concerns Romney’s veto of a bill that would have prohibited Massachusetts from contracting with companies that outsourced the state’s work to other countries. Lawmakers were especially concerned about a $160,000-a-month contract with Citigroup to operate a system of electronic food-stamp cards that included a customer phone service center in India.
Both the liberal editorial page of the Boston Globe and conservative editorial page of the Boston Herald urged Romney to veto the amendment, saying it would cost the state money. Romney agreed, saying the measure did not protect state jobs — the call center might have moved from India to another state — but “had the potential of costing our citizens a lot more money.” The Democratic-dominated Massachusetts legislature did not override his veto, even though it overturned 117 others, suggesting that there was little real support for the measure.
When the food-stamp contract expired, the Massachusetts Department of Transitional Assistance insisted that those jobs be returned to the United States. But they ended up in a call center based in Utah — just as Romney had predicted.
As we mentioned, we recounted this ancient Massachusetts history before, giving the campaign Two Pinocchios. So we were very surprised that the Obama campaign cited that critical Fact Checker column as a source for the ad in its back-up materials.
The ad also cites as a source a Boston Globe article from last month that merely reports on an earlier ad making similar charges. That’s highly circular reasoning — and is not fair play.
It must be really annoying to have the President of the United States cite a fact check debunking a previous claim as "evidence" that the claim was factual. Kind of makes you wonder who's in charge of the Obama campaign's research division?
Update: Yikes: two 4 Pinocchios in a row! The White House is on a roll!
Government jobs in Massachusetts grew at six times the rate of private-sector jobs during Romney’s term as governor, but that’s not at all the same as adding six public-sector jobs for every one in the private-sector. The state actually gained at least four private-sector jobs for every government job.
Plouffe referred to an “amazing article” that supposedly proved that Republicans have talked openly about improving Romney’s chances in the election by doing nothing on the economy. But the article actually explained that GOP lawmakers prefer to postpone any deal making until after the election because they’re feeling bullish about their chances. That is no different than what Democrats have done in the past.
Neither of Plouffe’s claims were factually correct, so Team Obama earns four Pinocchios.
Posted by Cassandra at June 21, 2012 02:37 PM
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Kind of makes you wonder who's in charge of the Obama campaign's research division?
Is that a question? It doesn't sound like a question. It sounds like a statement. I don't answer statements. I answer questions. Now, if you asked "Do you wonder who's in charge of the Obama campaign's research division?" That would be a question, and I'd answer "no" to that question. Do you want to know why? That's also a question. But I can answer it for you: "Yes." Ok, then I'll tell you why: Because I already know who's in charge of the Obama campaign's research division. This guy.
You got any more questions?
Posted by: Mr. Crabbypants at June 21, 2012 05:26 PM
I'm guessing he hired his ad writers from the same outfit that gave him his speechwriters.
Posted by: Cass at June 21, 2012 05:51 PM
The Modus Media case is also not an example of shipping jobs overseas. The company closed one plant in California and transferred the jobs to North Carolina, Washington and Utah.
Sounds overseas to me....
...annoying to have the President of the United States cite a fact check debunking a previous claim as "evidence" that the claim was factual.
Well it seems perfectly clear to me. If it weren't factual, there'd've been no fact to check.
More Lies of the President: on the Contempt of Congress bit, Obama also trotted out his old lie (with Jay Carney's mouth doing the talking in Obama's regular noon press deception--a really bad Jayne Cobb imitation) about how F&F had actually begun under the Bush administration.
Posted by: E Hines at June 21, 2012 05:57 PM
"F&F had actually begun under the Bush administration."
Imagine that! Wait one dog gone minute! Didn't ole Shelia Jackson Lee say the same thang yesterday?
As far as keepin' track of the size of that rascals nose as it grows, and grows, I thunk I'd rather his nicely creased trousers ignite. It'd happen with such frequency that I might be able to stay awake when he commandeers the tube to say much about naught.
Hollywood could jump on that'un. Call it Tha Cowering Infernal.
Posted by: Alstair Cooke's cousin Cletus at June 21, 2012 07:25 PM
I remember being taught in school that a fact was any statement that could be proven true or false. I suppose an article that proves your claim was false thus establishes that it your claim was entirely factual.
Posted by: Grim at June 21, 2012 09:47 PM
Here's a question. If it was started under Bush, why is the CURRENT President exercising Executive Privilege? Why is he protecting the Fault-meister?
Posted by: MikeD at June 22, 2012 08:44 AM
If F&F had started under Bush and been eliminated by Holder, as he now claims, not only would the President not be hiding the documents via a claim of executive privilege, he'd be leaking them to the New York Times.
As the breitbart.com site says, "Barack Obama has become the first President to use Executive Privilege to keep secret documents he claims he has never seen." And Holder discontinued an evil program he'd never heard of.
Posted by: Texan99 at June 22, 2012 11:11 AM
Obama is invoking executive privilege because his lousy lawyer has given him lousy advice. From a political standpoint, I understand why the administration does not want to share possibly damaging information with the congressional torch and pitchfork brigade. But from a legal standpoint, Holder has put the president in a real bind. There is legal justification for invoking a claim of executive privilege regarding communications between the Justice Department and the White House (its client). But, if (as Holder has testified) the White House was completely ignorant of the program, then the legal argument fails. In short, Holder's painted the administration into a corner: either he was lying then, or the White House is lying now. I have long disapproved of Holder as Attorney General because I think he is nothing but a hack lawyer with political friends and he's in way over his head. Still, I can't help but feel a little sorry for his naive client. I mean, it's not as if his boss had a law degree of his own.
Posted by: Mr. Crabbypants at June 22, 2012 11:51 AM
It's not lie if you really believe it.
Posted by: George Costanza at June 22, 2012 12:42 PM
"Barack Obama has become the first President to use Executive Privilege to keep secret documents he claims he has never seen." And Holder discontinued an evil program he'd never heard of.
But, but.... That just shows how wonderfully talented these guys are. They don't just walk on water, they transport themselves....
Posted by: E Hines at June 22, 2012 01:54 PM
Funny how that same Washington Post has a front-page story the NEXT DAY about how Bain, under Romney, was doing that very same outsourcing that Mr Factchecker here is claiming Romney wasn't there for.
Kind of strange - that's what that is.
Posted by: Nameless Cynic at June 22, 2012 02:32 PM