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October 17, 2012

Questioning the (Debate) Timing

This seems particularly amusing given Obama's favorite talking point.

You know, about how he wants America to be a place where everyone plays by the same set of rules:

According to the CNN debate clock, President Obama spoke at greater length than Mitt Romney during both debates, as did Vice President Biden during his debate with Paul Ryan. In the first debate, Obama spoke for 3 minutes, 14 seconds more than Romney – which means he got 8 percent more talking time than Romney. In last night’s debate, Obama spoke for 4 minutes and 18 seconds longer than Romney, giving him 11 percent more talking time. Obama talked for 52 percent of the time when either man had the floor, while Romney talked for 47 percent.

It would seem that debate clocks (or is it moderators?) have a liberal bias :p

Update: More asymmetrical journalism:


For a bunch of people who are all about reducing inequality, this seems rather problematic.

Posted by Cassandra at October 17, 2012 10:54 AM

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Cass, you ignorant slut!
Don't you realize that *47%* is thee most important number of this debate?! And no matter how it's gotta be done, it's gonna be a bigger monkey on Romney's back than Joe Montana on Steve Young.
You've obviously not been thinking with the proper lady parts if you missed that.

Posted by: DL Sly at October 17, 2012 11:42 AM

And if it isn't 47%, it is 47 million. Candy Crowley picking the questions and then propping up Obama was just shameful.

OTOH, Mitt didn't need to revisit the pension question; but an evil little demon in me was glad he did. That same imp was also extremely delighted when Romney called Obama out on the Libyan debacle. He wanted to be clear where the POTUS was and exactly what he said, and when.
Chortling with glee, we were.

Posted by: Carolyn at October 17, 2012 11:47 AM

I've never worried about the extra verbiage time in these debates; the disparities seem too small to be important. And they don't seem to be doing the one who occasionally sits in our President's chair (whether the one at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave or the one in the Winter Office at 2201 C St NW) any good.

Now, Crowley's failure, that's another matter.

Eric Hines

Posted by: E Hines at October 17, 2012 12:27 PM

I think Romney did fine. My assessment is that Ryan was more than a bit rattled by Biden's over the top performance and the moderator's refusal to make Biden act like a grownup, though.

The entire point of having rules is to keep things fair. I give Romney and Ryan full credit for rising above this, but it's still not right.

Posted by: Cassandra at October 17, 2012 12:33 PM

Rules for you but not for me. There's a photo of Michelle applauding during Crowley's lecturing Romney about what 0 said, well, implied, well, he used the word "terror". Maybe that's why he fled to Los Vegas -- he was terrified.

Posted by: htom at October 17, 2012 01:17 PM

The essence of liberalism can be summed up as "All are equal, but some are more equal than others".

Posted by: a former european at October 17, 2012 01:49 PM

Obama may have had more time but it can't help him because he has nothing of substance to say. He doesn't say anything we didn't hear 4 years ago...

Posted by: TexasMom2012 at October 17, 2012 02:27 PM

"As I've often said...."

"Let me be clear...."

"That is a false choicee....."

The more he speaks, the more he says the same thing.

I think it is great the more Obama speaks in these kinds of settings, because as much as he speaks, he doesn't have control of the venue, and he can be called on his mistatements and exagerations.

The ridiculous thing about the first debate was how many times he fell back on his time - worn cliches, the things he always falls back on; evil rich, corporate jets, tax breaks for oil companies, etc.

He has NEVER rethought anything and really does not seem to rethink and re-evaluate himself or his positions at all

Let him talk. He just keeps digging a deeper hole for himself.

Posted by: Don Brouhaha at October 17, 2012 05:52 PM